Cavaliers are now 4-13 without LeBron since his return to Cleveland

[scuzzy]

But what do you expect?

The fact that LBJ has so much influence on whether or not teams win is pretty significant.

Kevin Love was the Captain and face of one of the least clutch teams ever in the 2014 TWolves. They lost something like 90% of all games within a basket.

Kyrie has never NOT gotten a top 4 pick for his team as the best player. Add to the fact that they both are defensively horrid and they refuse to adjust to their strengths when Bron is out

I'm genuinely amazed they're not 0-17

[Real14]

Cavs are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) in tha finals with lebron.

[Akrazotile]

Honestly? Lebron probably should have sat out last year. Get some needed rest and let Love and Kyrie combine their powers of losing to earn a #1 lottery pick. Select Towns, then trade Irving and Love for better players, and be ready to roll with a decent supporting cast.

Dude's potentially wasting some beautiful years of his prime with this shit.

[scuzzy]

Honestly? Lebron probably should have sat out last year. Get some needed rest and let Love and Kyrie combine their powers of losing to earn a #1 lottery pick. Select Towns, then trade Irving and Love for better players, and be ready to roll with a decent supporting cast.

Dude's potentially wasting some beautiful years of his prime with this shit.

Agreed, gives us an idea of how 2005-2007 Lakers fans feel (the roster/kobe prime) minus the part abt losing in the first round and missing playofs

[SchrOEder]

yea, its obvious that the cavs are barely a playoff team without lebron.

especially love is shrinking without lebron. if the defensive attention is focused on lebron, kyrie and love have it much easier.

if love and kyrie dont step up, the cavs wont come out of the east

love is statpadding his defensive rebounds. he is battling with his own teamm8s for the defensive rebound.

[scuzzy]

yea, its obvious that the cavs are barely a playoff team without lebron.

especially love is shrinking without lebron. if the defensive attention is focused on lebron, kyrie and love have it much easier.

if love and kyrie dont step up, the cavs wont come out of the east

love is statpadding his defensive rebounds. he is battling with his own teamm8s for the defensive rebound.

it will be a miracle

[Dray n Klay]

There's no team LeBrons been on that would make the playoffs without him


Kobe wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round with any of LeBrons teams

[Lebron23]

How many games LeBron missed this season?

[SouBeachTalents]

Cavs are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) in tha finals with lebron.

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo

[SouBeachTalents]

There's no team LeBrons been on that would make the playoffs without him


Kobe wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round with any of LeBrons teams

'11 Heat
'12 Heat
'13 Heat

All indisputable

[Labissiere]

It isn't like many teams where they are just down their best player. They are down the guy their entire offense is built around. Of course their record is bad when he is gone.

[Papaya Petee]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo

don't know whats a bigger joke the Knicks franchise or him.

[Labissiere]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo

[scuzzy]

It isn't like many teams where they are just down their best player. They are down the guy their entire offense is built around. Of course their record is bad when he is gone.

Kyrie/Love were the focal point of the 13-14 Cavs/Wolves, yet were just as bad with them ON the court

[scuzzy]

Knicks are also 0-2 (about to be 0-3) making the playoffs the last 3 seasons with Melo