Kobe and KG, who had worse teammates 2005-2007?

[catzhernandez]

are these significantly worse than these casts?

antonio daniels
steve smith (32 years old)
malik rose
david robinson (36 years old)

or

eric snow
larry hughes
drew gooden
Z

?

duncan won 58 with the first cast in 2002 and lebron won 50 and went to the finals with the second cast in 2007.

i'm not saying kobe and kg didn't have a bad cast but please stop using it to hype up KG and Kobe. Prime Duncan takes KG and Kobe casts during those years to 50 wins and second round of the playoffs.

I actually agree with that.

[amfirst]

Caron wasn't well develop yet as a Lakers

[ZeN]

I actually agree with that.

2005-06

William "Smush" Parker
Sasha Vujacic
Luke Walton
Tim Duncan
Kwame Brown

With these off the bench: Lamar Odom, Devean George, Chris Mihm


Duncan being on the team basically cancels out the C's or Odom.. and then they would have been horrid at the guard spots. Plus, Duncan would have had to score in a prolific way much like Kobe did. Not to mention that the bench depth is non existant... Also, considering the poor D that Sasha and Smush would deliver, would make Duncan the last line of defense.


They get to 50 wins???


Sure catz.. I believe you..

[KG5MVP]

2005-06

William "Smush" Parker
Sasha Vujacic
Luke Walton
Tim Duncan
Kwame Brown

With these off the bench: Lamar Odom, Devean George, Chris Mihm


Duncan being on the team basically cancels out the C's or Odom.. and then they would have been horrid at the guard spots. Plus, Duncan would have had to score in a prolific way much like Kobe did. Not to mention that the bench depth is non existant... Also, considering the poor D that Sasha and Smush would deliver, would make Duncan the last line of defense.


They get to 50 wins???


Sure catz.. I believe you..

ISH overrates Tim duncan too much

[hotsizzle]

2005-06

William "Smush" Parker
Sasha Vujacic
Luke Walton
Tim Duncan
Kwame Brown

With these off the bench: Lamar Odom, Devean George, Chris Mihm


Duncan being on the team basically cancels out the C's or Odom.. and then they would have been horrid at the guard spots. Plus, Duncan would have had to score in a prolific way much like Kobe did. Not to mention that the bench depth is non existant... Also, considering the poor D that Sasha and Smush would deliver, would make Duncan the last line of defense.


They get to 50 wins???


Sure catz.. I believe you..

Uh yes they do...who's gonna stop the Smush-Sasha backcourt combo?

[Bond007]

Uh yes they do...who's gonna stop the Smush-Sasha backcourt combo?

LOL

some people are morons

[Waking_Life]

Uh yes they do...who's gonna stop the Smush-Sasha backcourt combo?

Everyonez.

[KG5MVP]

LOL

some people are morons

yea you talking about yourself, he was being sarcastic

[EricForman]

2005-06

William "Smush" Parker
Sasha Vujacic
Luke Walton
Tim Duncan
Kwame Brown

With these off the bench: Lamar Odom, Devean George, Chris Mihm


Duncan being on the team basically cancels out the C's or Odom.. and then they would have been horrid at the guard spots. Plus, Duncan would have had to score in a prolific way much like Kobe did. Not to mention that the bench depth is non existant... Also, considering the poor D that Sasha and Smush would deliver, would make Duncan the last line of defense.


They get to 50 wins???


Sure catz.. I believe you..

Wait, so Duncan being on the team would somehow neglect Odom completely as a player, even though he's one of the more versatile guys who can play the 3? And moving Odom to the bench would make their bench WORSE than with Kobe in place and Odom starting? Nice logic there.

Duncan wouldn't need to score as much as Kobe does. But if he had to carry that cast he'd drop 25 a night easy. His defense would make up for whatever extra points Kobe had put up.

Duncan has won 50+ every year of his frigging career. You don't think he can lead this team to 50? And why use this year? Why not the year with Caron Butler?

You guys wanna argue this and that, the fact is these type of "omg look at their lineup" can be made for everyone.

GP's cast in 2000, when they swept the Lakers in the regular season and finished above .500:

Brent Barry
Rashard Lewis
Ruben Patterson
Vin BAker (out of shape and drunk, averaged 12 and 5)


Nash's cast in 2006, when he went to the ECF

Marion
Tim Thomas
Boris Diaw
Raja Bell

Boris was a bench warmer averaging 4 points coming into this season. Tim Thomas was an underachieving journeyman.

Or take a look at Lebron's cast his four years in the league. These casts were slightly better than Kobe and KG's cast but they actually had significantly more success. So should GP Nash and LEbron fans be starting these same threads?

[eliteballer]

Are u fing kidding me foreman? Diaw doing 14/7/6 Marion doing 22/12/2/2 and Raja with 15 a game for good measure. Bron playing in the weak east with all-star calibar guys like hughes and Z and you're comparing to Smush and Kwame? You serious?

[Lakeshow23]

Man Kobe got such a raw deal. It really sucks.

MJ, Magic, Bird, Shaq, all these guys had great players around them in their primes. All of them...

[Waking_Life]

Man Kobe got such a raw deal. It really sucks.

MJ, Magic, Bird, Shaq, all these guys had great players around them in their primes. All of them...

Word homie.


Word.

[B-Diddy=2Easy]

I nevr thought Kobe had that bad of teammates, especially when I look back on some of the guys Pierce has played with.

[Da KO King]

ISH overrates Tim duncan too much

The most accurate thing said in this thread.

No matter how good Duncan may or may not be, he's not leading any of the crap posted here to second round of the playoffs.

[SAKOTXA]

Wait, so Duncan being on the team would somehow neglect Odom completely as a player, even though he's one of the more versatile guys who can play the 3? And moving Odom to the bench would make their bench WORSE than with Kobe in place and Odom starting? Nice logic there.

Duncan wouldn't need to score as much as Kobe does. But if he had to carry that cast he'd drop 25 a night easy. His defense would make up for whatever extra points Kobe had put up.

Duncan has won 50+ every year of his frigging career. You don't think he can lead this team to 50? And why use this year? Why not the year with Caron Butler?

You guys wanna argue this and that, the fact is these type of "omg look at their lineup" can be made for everyone.

GP's cast in 2000, when they swept the Lakers in the regular season and finished above .500:

Brent Barry
Rashard Lewis
Ruben Patterson
Vin BAker (out of shape and drunk, averaged 12 and 5)


Nash's cast in 2006, when he went to the ECF

Marion
Tim Thomas
Boris Diaw
Raja Bell

Boris was a bench warmer averaging 4 points coming into this season. Tim Thomas was an underachieving journeyman.

Or take a look at Lebron's cast his four years in the league. These casts were slightly better than Kobe and KG's cast but they actually had significantly more success. So should GP Nash and LEbron fans be starting these same threads?

Ok you want to use that year? Let's do this...

Chucky Atkins
Caron Butler
Vlade Divac ( dead man walking )
Brian Cook
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
Lamar Odom
Brian Grant
Slava Medvedenko
Chris Mihm
Kareem Rush ( couldn't make a shot to save his life )
Tony Bobbitt
Tierre Brown
Jumaine Jones
Devean George

My ass Duncan could lead this team to 50 wins...