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    Default How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Since forever actual professionals like scouts and GM's have mainly used the eye test to determine the best players. Most fans now days and certainly most of the people on here use stats. If you were to walk in any gym in the world you can quickly tell who the best player is with your own 2 eyes. You would never need stats to tell you that. Why has this generation become so stat crazy?

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    There

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWgyy_rlmag

    ISH = Brad Pitt
    GMs/scouts/gutter of society = everyone else.

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWgyy_rlmag

    ISH = Brad Pitt
    GMs/scouts/gutter of society = everyone else.
    Sabermetrics works much better with baseball, it

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    I used eye test when I first started posting to say that lebron was too ball-dominant, which put a lower ceiling on his team's brand of basketball and championship viability

    I was laughed off the forums..

    Since then, I've been using stats to make the case, such as lebron's pg-style from the forward spot, which gives the team 2 players with a pg-level time of possession (lebron and the actual pg, i.e. kyrie)... so the remaining 3 teammates have less time and assists compared to their play in 1-point guard lineups, which results in low TEAM assist rankings and a lower ball movement brand that struggles on the championship level (3/9.. 1/9 without ray/kyrie shots)

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    You can tell who has never played a lick of basketball.

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    [QUOTE=warriorfan]Sabermetrics works much better with baseball, it

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    This is perhaps the greatest thread in ISH history that will be avoided like the absolute plague.

    Nothing but relateable facts.

    Good job OP

    If you were to walk in any gym in the world you can quickly tell who the best player is with your own 2 eyes. You would never need stats to tell you that.
    Bran stans:

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWgyy_rlmag

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    It's over

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    It's over
    So baseball = basketball?

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Oh, this thread is actually being serious? Well the quick and obvious answer is that competition is different. You're trying to compare what a guy puts up against a D1 school to a D2 school?

    It's like comparing a guy's #s vs Kawhi, Iggy, Draymond, PG13 and then a guy's #s vs Hornacek, Porter, Ehlo, Starks, Russell.

    Got it?

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Oh, this thread is actually being serious? Well the quick and obvious answer is that competition is different. You're trying to compare what a guy puts up against a D1 school to a D2 school?

    It's like comparing a guy's #s vs Kawhi, Iggy, Draymond, PG13 and then a guy's #s vs Hornacek, Porter, Ehlo, Starks, Russell.

    Got it?
    What? Who TF said that

    Bran stans gotta make up shit as usual to maintain their delusional made up fairy tale world.

    First thinking Baseball is the same sport as Basketball and now this.

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23
    Since forever actual professionals like scouts and GM's have mainly used the eye test to determine the best players.

    Based on what? Do you have any evidence of this or are you talking out of your ass?

    I believe most, if not all, front offices now actively embrace analytics.

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Oh, this thread is actually being serious? Well the quick and obvious answer is that competition is different. You're trying to compare what a guy puts up against a D1 school to a D2 school?

    It's like comparing a guy's #s vs Kawhi, Iggy, Draymond, PG13 and then a guy's #s vs Hornacek, Porter, Ehlo, Starks, Russell.

    Got it?

    What were Lebron's stats against a 35 y.o Bowen, 32 y.o Pierce and JJ Barea?

    Do we ignore the defensive rule changes? Or how the scoring in the NBA has completely ballooned since the 90s and early 2000s?

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    Default Re: How come GM's and scouts mainly use eye test but most people on here use stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    What were Lebron's stats against a 35 y.o Bowen, 32 y.o Pierce and JJ Barea?

    Do we ignore the defensive rule changes? Or how the scoring in the NBA has completely ballooned since the 90s and early 2000s?
    What was their VORP doe

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