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Death Before Dishonor
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Maybe but the Warriors run is more impressive.
The Spurs were on revenge mode against an old exhausted heat team. they were desperation mode too because thats probably the only shot of winning it with the core they had.
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RIP P
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Last years Spurs were a great team, no doubt. But I believe people only remember how they performed in the Finals and forget about the rest.
This is a team that had the same supporting cast from 2012-present. In 2012 they lost 4 straight to OKC. In 2013 they lost to Miami and they were took to 6 games by Golden State. They weren't some sort of juggernaut team. They were a very good team that got hot at the right time.
They were dominant for the entire season. Hell, they won 62 games in a ridiculously tough conference, and even their record/MOV was deflated due to them not playing anyone over 30 MPG. That team was easily as good as if not better than this Warriors team.
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Death Before Dishonor
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by Young X
They were dominant for the entire season. Hell, they won 62 games in a ridiculously tough conference, and even their record/MOV was deflated due to them not playing anyone over 30 MPG. That team was easily as good as if not better than this Warriors team.
The Warriors won 67 while playing better offense and defense.
Hell, the 2013 warriors gave the Spurs problems.
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GSW Fan Since the 90s
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
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Kevin Love
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Last year's spurs are getting overrated. They went to 7 games against Mavericks.
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RIP P
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
The Warriors won 67 while playing better offense and defense.
Hell, the 2013 warriors gave the Spurs problems.
No ones denying that the Warriors had a better regular season, but that doesn't make them a better team overall.
The 2014 Spurs faced better playoff competition and dominated to a greater extent.
Beating the KD/Westbrook led Thunder and the defending champs >>> anything the Warriors have done.
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College superstar
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by EwingMan
funny, because the 2015 spurs weren't good enough to beat a fringe playoff contender for seeding, and then got bounced in the first round. their playoff experience really showed
You may laugh all you want but I'll take Spurs' playoff experience - especially their Finals performances - 5/6 ain't bad with that loss being as close as they can possibly get. You're barking up the wrong tree when it comes to Spurs and playoff experience.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by rmt
You may laugh all you want but I'll take Spurs' playoff experience - especially their Finals performances - 5/6 ain't bad with that loss being as close as they can possibly get. You're barking up the wrong tree when it comes to Spurs and playoff experience.
the counterfactuals are ridiculous: the team wasn't good enough to make it to the finals. if the benefits of experience would've resulted in sweeping the cavs, you'd think it would've kicked in against a marginal pellies team or a pathetic clippers 'team.'
spurs are a great franchise-but it was no accident that they got knocked out early this year.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by Young X
No ones denying that the Warriors had a better regular season, but that doesn't make them a better team overall.
The 2014 Spurs faced better playoff competition and dominated to a greater extent.
Beating the KD/Westbrook led Thunder and the defending champs >>> anything the Warriors have done.
You are not a better team simply because you faced better competition, if that was the case the 2011 Mavs and the 1995 Rockets would have to be considered all time great teams which they are not.
Warriors really haven't struggled this postseason, they had some bumps but that's about it. They are actually #2 in offense & #1 in defense in this postseason, the #1 offense was bounced in the first round.
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RIP P
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
You are not a better team simply because you faced better competition, if that was the case the 2011 Mavs and the 1995 Rockets would have to be considered all time great teams which they are not.
Warriors really haven't struggled this postseason, they had some bumps but that's about it. They are actually #2 in offense & #1 in defense in this postseason, the #1 offense was bounced in the first round.
No, you're a better team by also having a similarly great regular season and then dominating to a greater extent against better playoff competition.
Both teams struggled when they shouldn't have but even against weaker competition...when have the Warriors looked as dominant as the Spurs looked in their run from the semifinals against Portland to the finals against the defending champs?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by Young X
No, you're a better team by also having a similarly great regular season and then dominating to a greater extent against better playoff competition.
Spurs were 16-7 in the postseason
Warriors are 15-5 so far
Spurs faced better competition, but they didn't dominate like you are saying.
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College superstar
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by EwingMan
the counterfactuals are ridiculous: the team wasn't good enough to make it to the finals. if the benefits of experience would've resulted in sweeping the cavs, you'd think it would've kicked in against a marginal pellies team or a pathetic clippers 'team.'
spurs are a great franchise-but it was no accident that they got knocked out early this year.
Just because the Spurs lose to teams with great big men doesn't mean that they don't match up well with teams without a great big man as the Cavs presently are. As in most sports, match ups are key. Spurs have a great (or as good as any other team has) defender for Lebron in Khawi. They have another great defender in Danny Green vs any perimeter player who might get hot. They have a scoring big in Duncan that whoever the Cavs now have would have difficulty defending. The Cav most likely to give Spurs problem is Irving (speedy point guard that Parker would have to defend) who's out.
Spurs' experience (including coaching) would just be the cherry on top as the match ups would carry the series. IMO, one of the big reasons why this Cavs/GSW series is so close is experience - Cavs' (mostly Lebron's) experience vs the lack of experience on GSW/their lack of knowledge of how hard(intensity) they have to play (especially Kerr - why would you not double/triple team Lebron when he's the only one who can consistently score - make someone else beat you).
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RENT FREE
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
The Spurs absolutely raped the **** out of Miami last year.
Woulda beat this weak ass CLE team in 4, 100%
As i said, the Warriors have been extremely underwhelming, esp in the Finals.
Having said that, this is great experience for them and will help them in the next few years.
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RIP P
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Spurs were 16-7 in the postseason
Warriors are 15-5 so far
Spurs faced better competition, but they didn't dominate like you are saying.
Spurs struggled in the first 6 games against Dallas and then went 13-4 despite facing 3 very good to elite teams with a 13.1 point differential. Show me a stretch where the Warriors dominated like that this postseason.
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Chuck Hayes Stan
Re: Spurs 2014 > Warriors 2015
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Spurs were 16-7 in the postseason
Warriors are 15-5 so far
Spurs faced better competition, but they didn't dominate like you are saying.
Either you forgot, or didn't actually watch and are regurgitating something you've heard before.
The Spurs floated through the first round of the playoffs last year. Then they dominated.
Yes the Spurs last year were better. They are just the better team. I've been saying it a lot but no team this year has demonstrated the sharpness that we've seen in the last few years from teams. I think injury plays a large part.
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