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NBA Legend
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by Asukal
Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure.
Nope...
The 64-65 EDF's pitted a peak Russell and a peak Wilt against each other in what would be a monumental seven game series.
Russell played 340 out of the 341 minutes, and Wilt played every minute. Russell fouled out with a minute left in the OT game four.
Game 1:
Russell 32 out of 121 (TRB% of 26.4)
Wilt 31 out of 121 (TRB% of 25.6)
Game 2:
Russell 16 out of 124 (TRB% of 12.9)
Wilt 39 out of 124 (TRB% of 31.5)
Game 3:
Russell 26 out of 123 (TRB% of 21.1)
Wilt 37 out of 123 (TRB% of 30.1)
Game 4:
Russell 25 out of 142 (TRB% of 17.6)
Wilt 34 out of 142 (TRB% of 23.9)
Game 5:
Russell 28 out of 122 (TRB% of 23.0)
Wilt 21 out of 122 (TRB% of 17.2)
Game 6:
Russell 21 out of 128 (TRB% of 16.4)
Wilt 26 out of 128 (TRB% of 20.3)
Game 7:
Russell 29 out of 122 (TRB% of 23.8)
Wilt 32 out of 122 (TRB% of 26.2)
Totals:
Russell 177
Wilt 220
Total Rebounds in the series:
882
TRB% for the entire series:
Russell 20.1
Wilt 24.9
Wilt also held a 35-22 edge in known blocks, which, as we know, reduces TRB%'s.
Oh, and Chamberlain also outscored Russell, per game, in that series, 30.1 ppg to 15.6 ppg.) Overall, he outrebounded Russell, per game in the series, 31.4 rpg to 25.2 rpg. He outshot Russell from the floor in that series, .555 to .447. And, he also outshot Russell from the FT line, .583 to .472 (while, as always, outscoring Russell from the line 49-17.) Russell did hold a 47-23 assist advantage (6.7 apg to 3.3 apg.)
Keep in mind that during their 11 regular season H2H's, Russell averaged 12.9 ppg, 22.2 rpg, 4.6 apg, and shot .281 from the field. Chamberlain averaged 25.4 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 4.2 apg, and shot .473 from the floor.
So, Chamberlain DRAMATICALLY ELEVATED his play against Russell in the EDF's...all while taking his 40-40 team to a game seven, one point loss, against Russell's 62-18 Celtics.
A 30 ppg, 31 rpg, 3.3 apg, 7.0 bpg (known), .555 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .429 overall), .583 FT%, .560 TS% series In a post-season that shot a TS% of .475.)
Oh, and in the clinching game seven one point loss...Chamberlain scored 30 points on 15 FGAs (12-15... or .800 FG%)...with 32 rebounds. He also scored 8 of his team's last 10 points, including 2-2 from the line with 36 secs left, and a dunk on Russell with 5 secs left to pull them within 110-109.
The ONLY 30-30 series in NBA post-season history.
Last edited by LAZERUSS; 03-28-2015 at 08:24 PM.
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Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Well, I know that Shaq would have won those 2 titles, replacing Kobe with any other top 6 Player... irrelevant of exact production.
Carter, Grady, Hill, Iverson, Ray Allen even...
2002 WCF would be the only close year, but anyone wins with the refs.
only a cornball reject like arbitrary retard would think iverson, allen, grady, and carter or hill would be able to elite offense and defense like kobe did in the 3 peat
and for the record, without kobe, lakers NEVER 3 peat, nor get 1 ring.
kobe's investment in 2000 was irreplaceable. he took the lakers to the finals by sealing the series.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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NBA Legend
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by Asukal
Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure.
Wilt's '67 EDF's, which came against the 60-21 and EIGHT-TIME DEFENDING champion Celtics, and BILL RUSSELL:
He outscored Russell, per game in that series, 21.6 ppg to 10.2 ppg; outrebounded Russell, per game, 32.0 rpg to 23.4 rpg; outassisted Russell, per game, 10.0 apg to 6.0 apg; and outshot Russell from the field, by a .556 to .358 margin.
Oh, and in the clinching game five burial of the Celtics...
Wilt outscored Russell, 29-4 (with 22 points coming in the first half when the game was still close); outshot Russell from the floor, 10-16 to 2-5; outassisted Russell, 13-7; and outrebounded Russell, 36-21.
Of course, Chamberlain not only had three triple-double games in that five game series, he also had a KNOWN QUAD-DOUBLE of 24-32-13-12.
Oh, and for those that value TRB%...Chamberlain enjoyed a 25.2 to 18.2 TRB% advantage.
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Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by AirBourne92
only a cornball reject like arbitrary retard would think iverson, allen, grady, and carter or hill would be able to elite offense and defense like kobe did in the 3 peat
Iverson got the Sixers to the Finals single-handedly and beat the Lakers once, only team/player that could make that claim that postseason. Not far-fetched to think he could actually win with prime Shaq as his teammate. Same with all of those other guys. Kobe wasn't really anything special in '00, especially not in the finals
and for the record, without kobe, lakers NEVER 3 peat, nor get 1 ring.
That's just silly.
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Lord Olajuwon
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Hakeem in 88:
37.5/16.8/1.8/2.3/2.8 .571 FG% .641 TS%
134 ORtg 102 DRtg GmSc 34.2
Only 4 games though, and Houston lost against the Mavericks
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Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
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Justice4 the ABA
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Dr. J's '77 Finals.
30.3 ppg
6.8 rpg
5.0 apg
2.7 spg
.543 FG%
In the clinching game six two-point loss...
40 points, on 17-29 FG/FGA, 6-7 FT/FTA, 6 rebounds, and 8 assists.
Nah, the year before was even better vs. Denver.
Kevin Loughery, the Nets' Coach at that time, recently said of Erving's play in the ABA, "He had more talent at that stage--we asked him to do everything. I really believe--and I've told this to Doc--that the NBA never saw the real Dr. J. I really believe that. In the ABA he did things that were incredible. We asked him to do everything. We won the (1976) championship playing against Denver when they had Bobby Jones, an All-League defensive player. He had the best playoff series in a championship series that I've ever seen one individual have." Erving's numbers certainly support Loughery's contention, as the Doctor led both teams in scoring (37.7 ppg), rebounding (14.2 rpg), assists (6.0 apg), steals (3.0 spg) and blocked shots (2.2 bpg) in the 1976 ABA Finals. Pat Putnam wrote a great Sports Illustrated story about the first four games of the series, when Erving rang up 158 points, 51 rebounds, 22 assists, eight steals and seven blocked shots.
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First Kobe fan on ISH
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Tough one, probably LeBron
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ISH vigilant
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.
Not exactly. Put any decent Wing, Mcgrady, Carter, or practice boy and they win 4 instead of 3.
The reverse is true though. Without possibly the most dominant player peak wise off all time, Kobe has 3 less sidekick rings
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ISH vigilant
Re: The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Iverson got the Sixers to the Finals single-handedly and beat the Lakers once, only team/player that could make that claim that postseason. Not far-fetched to think he could actually win with prime Shaq as his teammate. Same with all of those other guys. Kobe wasn't really anything special in '00, especially not in the finals
That's just silly.
Exactly. Right. With Iverson,Carter, or Mcgrady you would be an idiot to be against them winning ATLEAST 3 (especially in Mcgrady ' s case)
15 ppg on 36%fg in the finals can be replaced by any scrub, unfortunately for Kobe stans
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