Is LeBron a top 10 player all-time?

[pauk]

Is LeBron a top 10 player all-time?

[TheCorporation]

I don't know.
Top 10ish on my list.

He is not a better peak player than:

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Shaq
Kareem
Hakeem
and probably Wilt

And his resume is not better than:

Russell

That's 8 players. You may argue 1 or 2... so I'd say LeBron is somewhere top 8-12. Top 6 if you really want to push it. Certainly not top 3 or anything like that. And not out of the top 15 either. Top 10ish.

Bird?

Bird made 5 Finals and was outscored by his own teammate in 3 of 5 of them

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[elementally morale]

You really think Magic was better at his peak than LeBron?

Yeah. In the same way Curry is better than Durant. As an individual player, no. As far as impact... yeah. I think mid 80s Bird and 87-89 Magic are better than LeBron. More impact on the team winning the game.

LeBron is not very good at team basketball. He makes plays. He passes fine. Still.... he just stops the ball. Durant and LeBron are both better individual players than e.g.: Larry Bird. But a Bird-led team is just something else.

At any rate, I don't have a problem with anyone having LeBron top 5. Sure, why not? I value different things.

[LAmbruh]

Another landslide victory per usual

[No Sir]

So pretty much everyone except butthurt kobetards have him around top 5 at worst. Sounds about right

[TheCorporation]

So pretty much everyone except butthurt kobetards have him around top 5 at worst. Sounds about right

Amen. And the funny thing about that is if they have LeBron outside of the top 10 then that makes Kobe top 25 at best?

LeBron is a legitimate 10 spots above Kobe so where ever you rank LeBron, Kobe is 10 spots behind it.

LBJ 2?
Kobe 12

LBJ 10?
Kobe 20

Quick mafs

[3ball]

Bird?

Bird made 5 Finals and [COLOR="DarkRed"]was outscored by his own teammate[/COLOR] in 3 of 5 of them

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Russell was outscored for most Finals, so that nullifies his rings too, according to your logic - so mj's 6 first option rings will be goat forever - no one is close

[LAmbruh]

So pretty much everyone except butthurt kobetards have him around top 5 at worst. Sounds about right

"per usual"

[3ball]

Within 10 years, most people will say lebron is NOT top 10, similar to how some do that for Kobe, but worse

He'll be in the top 15 range, like Dr J is or was a few years ago

[Kingwillball]

Within 10 years, most people will say lebron is NOT top 10, similar to how some do that for Kobe, but worse

He'll be in the top 15 range, like Dr J is or was a few years ago

Get off the crack son..

[TheCorporation]

Within 10 years, most people will say lebron is NOT top 10, similar to how some do that for Kobe, but worse

He'll be in the top 15 range, like Dr J is or was a few years ago

MJ is top 15 already so ...

[TheCorporation]

Russell was outscored for most Finals, so that nullifies his rings too, according to your logic - so mj's 6 first option rings will be goat forever - no one is close

You're the idiot that loves rings remember?

11 > 6

Bye

[Smoke117]

If LeBron isn't a top 10 player of all time I'm not a drunk. That's how ridiculous it is to be so fukking retarded to actually believe he isn't top 10 all time.

[3ball]

MJ is top 15 already so ...

Nah, he's consensus goat:





Not a single poll has lebron as goat - and today's players rank MJ over lebron by like 8 to 1 or something

[TheMan]

unexpected

even the worst of haters have him top 5





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i think this post-season is having peeps realize just how good and unprecedented this bron man is

Not really, I've never said LeBron was a bum. I have my criticisms of LeBron ball, didn't like the way he tried to stack the deck in his favor with the Big Three, he benefited from playing in a weak conference thus inflating his 8 straight NBA Finals etc etc but the man can play and he's one of the best I've seen since I started watching basketball and at the least he's gonna have an argument for GOAT based on longevity alone (accumulated stats)...I didn't come to this conclusion this post season.

In terms of peak play, I still put MJ, Bird, Shaq, Dream ahead of him (of the GOAT's I've seen) and slightly ahead of Magic.

My two cents.