Artest: Cleveland Is 'Nothing' Without LeBron

[Roundball_Rock]

knicks are 1.5 games behind the 8th spot. of course they wouldnt have the best record in the game (well close 2nd), but i still think they could contend with the knicks and bulls and raptors.

Look at the players those teams have. They are all much more talented than the Cavs without Lebron. Just look at their best players. Mo Williams is not nearly as good as David Lee, Derrick Rose, and Chris Bosh. Mo Williams arguably would not even be the second best player on those teams!

[TheGreatDeraj]

They would be a better version of the Houston Rockets.

Williams/gibson
West/parker
parker/J. Williams
Varajao/Hickson
Shaq/Z

[artex]

itll be funny once lebron leaves all the cav band wagoners gonna move with him

[imdaman99]

Look at the players those teams have. They are all much more talented than the Cavs without Lebron. Just look at their best players. Mo Williams is not nearly as good as David Lee, Derrick Rose, and Chris Bosh. Mo Williams arguably would not even be the second best player on those teams!

i like david lee, i enjoy watching him play. but hes vastly overrated on this board because at the end of the night he always has pretty numbers. hes not finishing games for the knicks, hes not putting his teammates on his back to close out the games. i do believe derrick rose and bosh are studs to finish off games though.

[tmac_no1]

true story

[Fudge]

What the **** is this guy talkin about? Seriously, just shut up already.

He's right about everything he said. You mad?

[Manute for Ever!]

itll be funny once lebron leaves all the cav band wagoners gonna move with him

He's not going anywhere

i like david lee, i enjoy watching him play. but hes vastly overrated on this board because at the end of the night he always has pretty numbers. hes not finishing games for the knicks, hes not putting his teammates on his back to close out the games. i do believe derrick rose and bosh are studs to finish off games though.

But he does other things that a team needs that Rose doesn't do (Bosh does, however) and that is hustle, play defense and rebound, under-appreciated aspects of the game. Players that do those things are my favourites to watch and are generally almost as valuable to a team as the player that has the traits you mentioned.

[Diesel J]

He's right about everything he said. You mad?

Yeah, he's mad

[cotdt]

They have the #6 defense. The Bucks and Bulls have the #8 and #9 defenses, respectively and they are both below .500 and they are both more talented than the Cavs sans Lebron. Plus, you have to assume that without Lebron their defense would not be as good. In 2008 they had the #11 defense and there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between #11 and #8 (106.4 D rating vs. 106.0). What did they do without Lebron? 0-8.

No surprise they can't win without Lebron, as the whole team is built around him. Without Lebron there would be nobody to run the team. Doesn't mean the team can't win if there is a new system to suit the remaining players, or if they brought in someone else that can run the team.

[YAWN]

so this is assuming lebron is out for the whole season? or leaves the team and they spend the 17 million on someone else? If the latter, im sure whoever they find thats pulling that kind of salary would lead them to the playoffs in the east.. but yes if lebron went down with an injury then the team would hit a big losing streak.

[Force]

He's right..Lebron has distanced himself from everybody else as the worlds best player at this moment in time...The Cavs would win 30 games without him

[RoseCity07]

Artest speaking the truth again. They are nothing with out Lebron.

[1~Gibson~1]

Daniel Gibson hit the game winner tonight, ****er!

They would be a better version of the Houston Rockets.

Williams/gibson
West/parker
parker/J. Williams
Varajao/Hickson
Shaq/Z

Moon would start

Mo / Gibson
Parker / West - 6th man
Moon / Jawad
JJ / Varejao / Powe
Shaq / Z

itll be funny once lebron leaves all the cav band wagoners gonna move with him

once?? you mean IF.

[crisoner]

Moon would start

Mo / Gibson
Parker / West - 6th man
Moon / Jawad
JJ / Varejao / Powe
Shaq / Z
once?? you mean IF.

IF the Cavs don't win it all this year what is the likelihood of Bron staying in Cleveland do you think? I say it is a 85% chance he is NY bound.

[1~Gibson~1]

IF the Cavs don't win it all this year what is the likelihood of Bron staying in Cleveland do you think? I say it is a 85% chance he is NY bound.

the hell if i know.

im not LeBron therefore i dont know what the hell he's thinking. but if anything i think he'll be leaning more towards Cleveland than New York.