At least Jordan was in a Wizards uniform when he embarassed himself

[kshutts1]

Just a guess, but if Lebron stans weren't so delusionally pompous as to his quality as a basketball player, you probably wouldn't see so many of these threads.

False. Trolls will be trolls. If they can even upset one person, they will do it.

So your statement would likely be true if ALL stans would stop being "stanny". But that's not realistic.

[Elosha]

It's just one game and Lebron will surely produce a strong statistical season, as he always does. But it is a bit embarrassing, particularly since he foolishly claimed this game was one of the biggest sporting events of all time. What the hell was he thinking?

Not a great start for the Cavs. They've got their work cut out for them, but fortunately they've got 81 more games to get it right. Here's hoping the Bulls will cut them down in the playoffs though.

[riseagainst]

lol
dubeta and JT avoiding this thread like people avoiding ebola.

[Beastmode88]

lol
dubeta and JT avoiding this thread like people avoiding ebola.

they're just making their own threads to drop this one. make sure we get some bumpage going

[mehyaM24]

Jordan didn't embarrass himself for the Wizards. If anything it showed his heart, and skill level to be able to compete at the level he did, perform the way he did as an old man on bad knees.

he had the lowest ts% of any 20ppg scorer EVER. bu-bu, he showed heart!

[AlphaWolf24]

he had the lowest ts% of any 20ppg scorer EVER. bu-bu, he showed heart!

lol....I would love to see if any retired pro athletes 38 - 40 years old play a full NBA game...let alone do what MJ did ( I.E. still be a legit 20 - 25 PPG player)

most athletes / average person over 35 years old couldn't run 1 mile without gassing out ...

[mehyaM24]

lol....I would love to see if any retired pro athletes 38 - 40 years old play a full NBA game...let alone do what MJ did ( I.E. still be a legit 20 - 25 PPG player)

most athletes / average person over 35 years old couldn't run 1 mile without gassing out ...

being retired after a year or two actually helps (assuming we are talking about athletes in their 30's). more mileage = less productivity

any perimeter player can go out, shotjacking for 20-25 ppg. can they be efficient doing it though? in jordan's case, he was THE LEAST efficient player scoring 20 ppg EVER.

[Ramza]

Bran is DONE.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Not playing creates rust, it doesn't help. Atrophy on the body, and your skills. Like a rusty knife. It also kills your endurance. Might help rest up legs at a certain point, but it doesn't reinvigorate the body.

Age, and health has more to do with recovery, and recovery time than anything else. When people talk about minutes logged on a player's body it makes no difference. All these guys played basketball whether in college, AAU, recreationally. Just because it wasn't in NBA games doesn't mean it doesn't count as strain on the body.

Then factoring in weight gain, or getting out of shape in that 3 year time span. That's a long time to be away from a pro game then come back to compete between the ages of 38 and 40.

Jordan put up impressive numbers given context, in a more physical era of basketball. On a bum knee by the middle of his first season back no less.

LMAO @ anyone considering that embarrassing. This wasn't Steve Nash we're talking about. Did it sully his story book finish in '98? Sure.

But Jordan was a competitor, with heart, felt he had more left in him and wanted to leave on his terms. And not on Jerry Krause for breaking up the dynasty a season or two early.

[mehyaM24]

Not playing creates rust, it doesn't help. Atrophy on the body, and your skills. Like a rusty knife. It also kills your endurance. Might help rest up legs at a certain point, but it doesn't reinvigorate the body.

rust dwindles within time. mileage does not. this is a scientific fact.

and comparing AAU and highschool competition to the nba now? smh. nba seasons are tough because you're competing against, seemingly, the BEST athletes in the world, every night, for 82 games.

there are many athletes -kobe for example- who openly acknowledged how their mileage affected them and that they were no longer the player they once were. of course they draw some extra motivation from some kind of objective analysis (volume scoring), but in the end, there is too much evidence placed on in the areas in which they declined.

thing is, with jordan, he took 2 years off in his 30's, thus retaining much needed athleticism and quickness. jordan at 38 was really 35 in reality.

sure, you can feel proud that jordan topped his natural talent with competitiveness and toughness in staying relatively average. but we cannot ignore that he was THE least efficient perimeter scorer in history.

[Droid101]

rust dwindles within time. mileage does not. this is a scientific fact.

and comparing AAU and highschool competition to the nba now? smh. nba seasons are tough because you're competing against, seemingly, the BEST athletes in the world, every night, for 82 games.

there are many athletes -kobe for example- who openly acknowledged how their mileage affected them and that they were no longer the player they once were. of course they draw some extra motivation from some kind of objective analysis (volume scoring), but in the end, there is too much evidence placed on in the areas in which they declined.

thing is, with jordan, he took 2 years off in his 30's, thus retaining much needed athleticism and quickness. jordan at 38 was really 35 in reality.

sure, you can feel proud that jordan topped his natural talent with competitiveness and toughness in staying relatively average. but we cannot ignore that he was THE least efficient perimeter scorer in history.

The meltdowns.

[mehyaM24]

The meltdowns.

over what? i am merely educating swish on how mileage works.