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Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Talking about MJ Wizards pre-knee injury. He basically win every hth matchup with younger rivals like PP or Vince. Those are the stats for the 2001-2002 season, before his knee went down.
VS PAUL PIERCE
2001-11-07:
Jordan: 32\8\2, 2 stl, 12-26 fg
Pierce: 14\5\2, 2 stl, 3 blk, 6-16 fg (win)
2001-11-24:
Jordan: 17\11\6, 1 stl, 7-24 fg (win)
Pierce: 23\7\5, 1 stl, 2 blk, 7-20 fg
2001-2002 TOTALS
W-L: 1-1
JORDAN: 24.5 ppg, 9.5 rbs, 4.0 ast, .380 fg
PIERCE: 18.5 ppg, 6.0 rbs, 3.5 ast, .361 fg
Pierce in his prime just destroyed. 2-0 HTH plain and simple. JORDAN WIN.
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VS LATRELL SPREWELL
2001-2002
2001-10-30:
Jordan: 19\5\6, 4 stl, 7-21 fg
Sprewell: 28\5\3, 1 stl, 9-21 fg (win)
2001-12-14:
Jordan: 19\6\6, 1stl, 2blk, 8-19 fg (win)
Sprewell: 13\0\1, 2-10 fg
2001-12-22:
Jordan: 26\1\3, 1 stl 11-22 fg (GAME-WINNER)
Sprewell: 6\4\3, 3-16 fg
2001-2002 TOTALS:
W-L: 2-1
JORDAN: 21.3 ppg, 4.0 rbs, 5.0 ast, .420 fg%
SPREWELL: 15.7 ppg, 3.0 rbs, 2.3 ast, .298 fg%
Same. Sprewell outscored, more boards, more ast, better fg%, 2-1 in HTH and also a Game-winner in Spree face. JORDAN WIN.
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VS RAY ALLEN
2001-11-14:
Jordan: 31\4\3, 2 stl, 1 blk, 12-24 fg
Allen: 22\4\9, 1 stl, 1 blk, 6-14 fg (win)
2002-01-11:
Jordan: 22\3\3 1 stl, 10-24 fg
Allen: 27\3\4 3 stl, 11-19 fg (win)
2001-2002 TOTALS
W-L: 0-2
JORDAN: 26.5 ppg, 3.5 rbs, 3.0 ast, .458 fg
ALLEN: 24.5 ppg, 3.5 rbs, 6.5 ast, .515 fg
So, its a 1-1 in the HTH. MJ at 38 years old dropped 31 on 50% in the 1st matchup, but Allen got the best of him in the 2nd. Still, in the overall numbers MJ scored more but Allen had more ast and a better %. DRAW
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VS VINCE CARTER
2001-12-16:
Jordan: 21\4\3 3 stl, 8-21 fg (win)
Carter: 23\5\1 2 stl, 2 blk, 8-17 fg (Carter scores ZERO points in the 2nd half thanks to MJ defensive effort)
2002-02-05:
Jordan: 23\7\5 10-21 fg (win)
Carter: 29\1\2 10-23 fg
2001-2002 TOTALS
W-L: 2-0
JORDAN: 22.0 ppg, 5.5 rbs, 4.0 ast, .429 fg%
CARTER: 26.0 ppg, 3.0 rbs, 1.5 ast, .450 fg%
MJ hands down. 2 wins, in the 1st he hold VC to ZERO in the 2nd half while scoring also 21 points, in the second he put 23\7\5 with better fg%. Carter with just 1.5 ast in 2 contest.
While VC scored more overall (26 to 22 ppg), Mj had better boards and ast numbers.
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VS KOBE BRYANT
2002-02-12:
Jordan: 22\5\6 , 2stl, 1 blk 9-20 fg
Bryant: 23\11\15, 1 stl, 1 blk, 8-20 fg (win)
Kobe got this. Kobe leads LA comeback and got the win plus the triple double. But MJ still hold his own, scoring 22 with better fg%, 5 boards and 6 ast.
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VS ALLEN IVERSON
2001-11-28:
Jordan: 30\6\7 5 stl 1 blk, 11-27 fg (win)
Iverson: 40\6\3 1 stl, 15-31 fg
2002-01-22:
Jordan: 30\8\6 2 stl 1 blk, 14-27 fg
Iverson: 34\2\5 2 stl 1 blk, 14-32 fg (win)
2001-2002 TOTALS
W-L: 1-1
JORDAN: 30.0 ppg, 7.0 rbs, 6.5 ast, .463 fg%
IVERSON: 37.0 ppg, 4.0 rbs, 4.0 ast, .460 fg%
Hard choice, but MJ got this. Jordan scored 30 a game with huge numbers in boards and ast and with a better fg%, and Iverson 37 a game where remarkable anyway.
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VS TRACY MCGRADY
2001-12-01:
Jordan: 15\7\7 2 blk, 6-19 fg
McGrady: 26\8\2 1 blk, 10-20 fg (win)
T.Mac got this. Anyway, its fair to note that after this game Mj knee was so bad that he didnt play vs Spurs and he got drained.
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VS KEVIN GARNETT
2002-01-12:
Jordan: 35\6\4 1 stl 1 blk, 14-30 fg
Garnett: 31\6\7 1 stl, 12-21 fg (win)
2002-01-21:
Jordan: 29\14\3, 12-34 fg
Garnett: 23\6\9 1 stl 1 blk, 8-17 fg (win)
2001-2002 TOTALS
W-L: 0-2
JORDAN: 32.0 ppg, 10.0 rbs, 3.5 ast, .406 fg%
GARNETT: 27.0 ppg, 6.0 rbs, 8.0 ast, .526 fg%
I will say a draw. Mj scored more, take more boards, but KG made more ast and with a better fg%.
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VS JERRY STACKHOUSE
2001-11-04:
Jordan: 19\8\2 1 stl, 8-18 fg
Stackhouse: 28\4\4, 12-17 fg (WIN)
2002-01-29:
Jordan: 32\5\7 2 stl, 13-30 fg
Stackhouse: 24\6\6 1 stl, 10-21 fg (WIN)
2001-2002 TOTALS
Jordan: 25.5 ppg, 6.5 rbs, 4.5 ast, .438 fg%
Stackhouse: 26.0 ppg, 5.0 ast, 5.0 ast, .579 fg%
Close one, but Stack got this.
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Rose is not a HOF
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by The Immortal
Damn.. Kobe with a mean triple double in a win showing MJ how its done.. Then scored in a half at a rate MJ could only dream of. Could only imagine what LeBron would've done against a prime MJ.
Pass the ball to dwade?
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NBA Finals MVP
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Pass the ball to dwade?
SLAYED
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Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Pass the ball to dwade?
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Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
This is obviously just a hate thread, but I really don't understand why all the Jordan stans think Jordan was any good on the Wizards. The guy averaged an atrocious 22.9ppg on 22.1 shot attempts his first season... That is Antoine Walker efficiency at his worst. There is no way you can spin a positive on a guy jacking up 22.1 shots to score 22.9pppg.
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Tell me what I Ced
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
OP, MJ played most of his minutes at SF for the Wiz
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Banned (lol)
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
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NBA All-star
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Smoke117
This is obviously just a hate thread, but I really don't understand why all the Jordan stans think Jordan was any good on the Wizards. The guy averaged an atrocious 22.9ppg on 22.1 shot attempts his first season... That is Antoine Walker efficiency at his worst. There is no way you can spin a positive on a guy jacking up 22.1 shots to score 22.9pppg.
Agree it wasn't the best, but what were his numbers before the injury?
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The Deciders
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
The circle jerk on this site really needs to stop
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Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
BAH GAWD look at the carnage
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College star
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Pass the ball to dwade?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! one shot one kill bro!
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Smoke117
This is obviously just a hate thread, but I really don't understand why all the Jordan stans think Jordan was any good on the Wizards. The guy averaged an atrocious 22.9ppg on 22.1 shot attempts his first season... That is Antoine Walker efficiency at his worst. There is no way you can spin a positive on a guy jacking up 22.1 shots to score 22.9pppg.
Jordan led that Wizards team to 19 more wins (18 to 37) while shooting the same TS percentage as Lebron in Lebron's rookie year..
No one gets on Lebron for shooting that as a rook.. and no one should get on Jordan for shooting that as an old man with no knees, when he's bringing everything else to the table to get 19 more wins.
How many more wins above 19 did you expect a 39-year old to get for the Wizards?
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Local High School Star
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Smoke117
This is obviously just a hate thread, but I really don't understand why all the Jordan stans think Jordan was any good on the Wizards. The guy averaged an atrocious 22.9ppg on 22.1 shot attempts his first season... That is Antoine Walker efficiency at his worst. There is no way you can spin a positive on a guy jacking up 22.1 shots to score 22.9pppg.
By regular standards, he was a pretty good player.
I agree he wasn't efficient, but the team win total almost doubled from the previous year.
It's not like the Wizards made any other significant additions other than Jordan, so I'd credit Jordan being a difference maker in the Wizards going from garbage to mediocre.
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Coach
Re: Wizards MJ pre-knee injury HTH with Greats
Originally Posted by Stringer Bell
By regular standards, he was a pretty good player.
I agree he wasn't efficient, but the team win total almost doubled from the previous year.
It's not like the Wizards made any other significant additions other than Jordan, so I'd credit Jordan being a difference maker in the Wizards going from garbage to mediocre.
It's not like he was on some stacked Portland Trailblazer squad or something. His best players were Tyrone Nesby, Tyrone Lue, Jahidi White, and rookie RIP Hamilton. I mean what did they expect from a 39 year old coming off 3x years of retirement? All things considering, before his knee injury, he was good. Not consistent given age with back to backs, but he more than doubled their win total. On pace for the playoffs too before his injury.
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