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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by coin24
    This is what you really meant right pauk?

    Well if bran didn't shit the bed in 2011 the heat team up would actually look respectable. 2/4 is pretty average considering they played in the pathetic east and only won 2 due to a heavily rigged series against OKC, and a lucky bounce against the spurs in 13

    How are your cavs looking so far??
    A Laker fan talking about rigged series?

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    This gives me a newfound appreciation for what Lebron did last season. Taking a team to the Finals with half the roster filled with old and washed up players. Even winning a game against the superteam Spurs! No other player could have accomplished that with the roster Lebron was given last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballup
    Half of those guys are old/retired. The other half aren't capable of playing in meaningful NBA roles. Its not like all of them were regular starters
    yes, team also had borderline d-leaguers like Haslem and James Jones on that roster.

    Norris Cole and Birdman is what is left really.

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Exlax
    I will be 100% that they won't make it as far as the Bulls did without MJ. Now that was a stacked squad. Players and the goat coach.
    So the heat this year wont make the second round? Barring injury they will most definitely make it.

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash
    yes, team also had borderline d-leaguers like Haslem and James Jones on that roster.

    Norris Cole and Birdman is what is left really.
    Not sure what you are saying yes to.

    Every team has decling players or bad players. Spurs had Matt Bonner, Baynes, Ayres on their roster. So what?

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku
    Yeah, and they sucked last year. What's your point?

    They only made the finals because they play in the cupcake Eastern Conference. Every single playoff team in the West would have probably beaten the Heat.

    They lost every game to the Spurs by at least 15 points. It was embarrassing.


    If LeBron doesn't get cramps, they win Game 2 and go up 2-0 GOING BACK HOME... Who's to say they don't finish off the Game 3 comeback? Game 4 was a blowout all through. Who's to say they don't hold on to their HUGE game 5 start-out lead?

    Could have been over by then with the momentum after game 2. Could also have lost in 6. Or it goes longer than both 5 or 6 games, and ends in 7.

    Point is, the Mavericks in their Game 7, Blazers AND Thunder ALL got stomped by the Spurs in their losses as well... It's one of the greatest Teams of all-time, and one of the most dominant +/- Playoff Teams ever (Best since the 2001 Lakers).

    "Heat would have lost to every other West Playoff Team"

    Is this the newest Myth?

    Miami Heat 2014 Regular Season Records vs West Playoff Teams:

    1-1 vs Spurs
    1-1 vs Thunder
    2-0 vs Clippers
    1-1 vs Rockets
    2-0 vs Blazers
    1-1 vs Warriors
    1-1 vs Grizzlies
    2-0 vs Mavericks

    No Loosing Record. 3 Wins & 5 Ties.

    PLUS being the Playoff experienced Team, BATTLE TESTED BACK-TO-BACK Champions who've BEEN THEIR AND DONE IT... How do you NOT figure them beating any Team besides the Spurs?

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater


    If LeBron doesn't get cramps, they win Game 2 and go up 2-0 GOING BACK HOME... Who's to say they don't finish off the Game 3 comeback? Game 4 was a blowout all through. Who's to say they don't hold on to their HUGE game 5 start-out lead?

    Could have been over by then with the momentum after game 2. Could also have lost in 6. Or it goes longer than both 5 or 6 games, and ends in 7.

    Point is, the Mavericks in their Game 7, Blazers AND Thunder ALL got stomped by the Spurs in their losses as well... It's one of the greatest Teams of all-time, and one of the most dominant +/- Playoff Teams ever (Best since the 2001 Lakers).

    "Heat would have lost to every other West Playoff Team"

    Is this the newest Myth?

    Miami Heat 2014 Regular Season Records vs West Playoff Teams:

    1-1 vs Spurs
    1-1 vs Thunder
    2-0 vs Clippers
    1-1 vs Rockets
    2-0 vs Blazers
    1-1 vs Warriors
    1-1 vs Grizzlies
    2-0 vs Mavericks

    No Loosing Record. 3 Wins & 5 Ties.

    PLUS being the Playoff experienced Team, BATTLE TESTED BACK-TO-BACK Champions who've BEEN THEIR AND DONE IT... How do you NOT figure them beating any Team besides the Spurs?

    definitely agree that game 1 could/should have been Miami's had it not been for the cramp situation...game 2 was a heroic effort all around...however, I don't see the Heat winning anymore than that. Hard to beat such a dominant team in the Spurs when you're basically playing 2 vs 5, those two being Lebron and Birdman.

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater


    If LeBron doesn't get cramps, they win Game 2 and go up 2-0 GOING BACK HOME... Who's to say they don't finish off the Game 3 comeback? Game 4 was a blowout all through. Who's to say they don't hold on to their HUGE game 5 start-out lead?

    Could have been over by then with the momentum after game 2. Could also have lost in 6. Or it goes longer than both 5 or 6 games, and ends in 7.

    Point is, the Mavericks in their Game 7, Blazers AND Thunder ALL got stomped by the Spurs in their losses as well... It's one of the greatest Teams of all-time, and one of the most dominant +/- Playoff Teams ever (Best since the 2001 Lakers).

    "Heat would have lost to every other West Playoff Team"

    Is this the newest Myth?

    Miami Heat 2014 Regular Season Records vs West Playoff Teams:

    1-1 vs Spurs
    1-1 vs Thunder
    2-0 vs Clippers
    1-1 vs Rockets
    2-0 vs Blazers
    1-1 vs Warriors
    1-1 vs Grizzlies
    2-0 vs Mavericks

    No Loosing Record. 3 Wins & 5 Ties.

    PLUS being the Playoff experienced Team, BATTLE TESTED BACK-TO-BACK Champions who've BEEN THEIR AND DONE IT... How do you NOT figure them beating any Team besides the Spurs?
    Some serious reaching going on here bro.. your team(ahem, ex team) lost by the most points in finals history.

    Regular season records never seemed to matter when talking bulls or indy or the knicks.. They were downright dismissed and laughed at. now they suddenly matter when talking west teams lmao

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash
    Lewis, Oden and Douglas.

    Except for having all of those players off the NBA the team had huge issues. They still had no bigs.

    People don't fully appreciate what Lebron, Wade and Bosh accomplished.
    i always liked douglas

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Some serious reaching going on here bro.. your team(ahem, ex team) lost by the most points in finals history.

    Regular season records never seemed to matter when talking bulls or indy or the knicks.. They were downright dismissed and laughed at. now they suddenly matter when talking west teams lmao
    Oh because the Heat always turned it up in the Playoffs?

    And don't even act like the series would be the same when a Team heads home up 2-0....

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by I<3NBA
    actually, every opponent of the Spurs (except for Mavs and OKC a little less) got embarrassed too. that Spurs team was fantastic.

    i attribute the Heat being trashed by Spurs for 2 reasons. Battier got old and they had no one to replace his fantastic defense, and they lost Mike Miller, who was fantastic in knocking down the threes when needed. actually, if you watch the 13 finals again, you'd see these 2 (Battier and Miller) as the role players that really helped fend off the Spurs.

    the Heat's trapping defense depended a lot on Lebron and Battier being able to guard anyone. with Battier gone, their defense suffered greatly. it was evident. and also one of the reasons why Lebron was so gassed as they arrived in the Finals.
    .....so the Blazers? wtf?

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    Default Re: 6 players from last seasons Miami Heat team are no longer in the league

    Quote Originally Posted by I<3NBA
    actually, every opponent of the Spurs (except for Mavs and OKC a little less) got embarrassed too. that Spurs team was fantastic.

    soooo.. only the inexperienced Blazers?
    ^^^lol wizzard

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