Who was better... Barkley or Kobe?

[PickernRoller]

Damn so this is where all the rejects were holing up...

ImKobe toying with all of them. Sad sight..

[Bigsmoke]

Kobe by far

[And1AllDay]

kobe bean alll the way


top 8 list

bran
kobe
russell
magic
kareem
shaq
duncan
bird

[Mr Feeny]

kobe bean alll the way


top 8 list

bran
kobe
russell
magic
kareem
shaq
duncan
bird

Sorry manny. you already said lebron was only 11th.

[CTbasketball92]

From what I can see, Barkley clearly had a more dominant peak. It was legit a top 12 or so level peak. Kobe in reality was more like a top 20 or so peak. His accolades and career make him like a top 10-15 player ever though, while Barkley is in the top 25-30

[Round Mound]

From what I can see, Barkley clearly had a more dominant peak. It was legit a top 12 or so level peak. Kobe in reality was more like a top 20 or so peak. His accolades and career make him like a top 10-15 player ever though, while Barkley is in the top 25-30

I have Chuck in the 15-20 range but prime and peak wise he was easily top 10. Kobe is also around the same level for me.

[GimmeThat]

well, Barkley is a truck and Kobe is a SUV. just what is the price between gold and diamond anyways

[ClipperRevival]

well, Barkley is a truck and Kobe is a SUV. just what is the price between gold and diamond anyways

What?

[Dr Hawk]

I have Kobe inside the Top 10 and Barkley outside.

[AussieSteve]

From what I can see, Barkley clearly had a more dominant peak. It was legit a top 12 or so level peak. Kobe in reality was more like a top 20 or so peak. His accolades and career make him like a top 10-15 player ever though, while Barkley is in the top 25-30

This.

Except I think that most have Chuck in the 18-22 range. I rate actual level of play higher than longevity and achievements influenced by circumstance (like having a GOAT team mate and GOAT coach). Hence i think having Barkley and Kobe in the same tier is perfectly valid.

[Round Mound]

These are they players i've got ranked ahead of Barkley:

1-MJ
2-Wilt
3-Kareem
4-Hakeem
5-Shaq
6-Duncan
7-Bird
8-Magic
9-Lebron
10-Big 0
11-Dr J
12-Moses
13-Elgin
14-Russell
15-Kobe
16-Barkley

[Charlie Sheen]

This is fair. There's a lot of hyperbole in my comment, but Kobe having Shaq through his early-mid 20s is tantamount to Barkley having Jordan, Magic or Bird until 1990.

If that happened and Chuck won 3 or 4 rings between 86 an 90, which he like would have, does that make him better? Or more fortunate?

No doubt. Playing with Shaq, in a league without Jordan, were both competitive advantages Kobe held over Barkley.

The last part is a really good question. I don't penalize Barkley for not winning when he had his best chance. Nobody got rings from Jordan in that league. Now, I'd be lying if I told you I don't care about winning at all. So, yeah, Barkley would probably look a little better in my eyes if he had multiple titles in an alternate reality. In this reality, I don't think he's a loser or it's some knock against him for not winning though. I know it's confusing but it makes sense to me