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Buck Dynasty
What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Whatever year you think was Kobe's peak..01, 03, 06, 08, 09, whatever. Which seasons of Jordan's career was Kobe's peak better?
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Consensus, Cemented
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
05/06 season is definitely better than 2nd 3peat Jordan
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
09 Wade is better than a few Jordan Bulls seasons, though.
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truth serum
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
probably 06 kobe over 95 on for Mj and Kobe 08-10 just behind the 2nd 3peat Mj.
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Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
2001, 2002, 2003 kobe is on par with any version of MJ
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 are better than any version of MJ
difference is jordan didnt get forced into feeding another guy in the finals to make him happy
and jordan always had a contending team during his absolute prime
had shaq not threatened to let people score and if the 2006/2007 lakers had a 2nd allstar then kobe probably has 7 rings and 5-6 finals mvps
jordan had the better career because of circumstances that benefited him individually
they both have the same point per shot. kobe was more skilled offensively. jordan was slightly better defensively
sometimes luck can make or break a persons goat status
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan had better stats:[/COLOR]
JORDAN 1996-1998 [COLOR="Navy"]REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 29.6 ppg.. 48.2% fg.. 2 MVP
BRYANT 2008-2010 [COLOR="Navy"]REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.4 ppg.. 46.1% fg.. 1 MVP
JORDAN 1996-1998 [COLOR="Indigo"]PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.4 ppg.. 45.9% fg
BRYANT 2008-2010 [COLOR="Indigo"]PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 29.8 ppg.. 46.4% fg
JORDAN 1996-1998 [COLOR="DarkRed"]FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.1 ppg.. 43.4% fg.. 3 championships.. 3 FMVP's
BRYANT 2008-2010 [COLOR="DarkRed"]FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 29.2 ppg.. 41.3% fg.. 2 championships.. 2 FMVP's
Source: basketball-reference.com
[COLOR="darkred"]Despite carrying a much bigger load:[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]............[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"].........................[/COLOR]RS[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR]RS 4th[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] PO[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]PO 4th[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]Finals[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] Finals 4th
JORDAN 1997... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3...... 40.9...... 50.4 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- links to nba.com data[/COLOR]
JORDAN 1998... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8...... 43.6...... 49.1
KOBE 2008....... 31.8..... 36.8..... 33.9..... 41.5...... 30.4...... 32.1
KOBE 2009....... 32.6..... 40.5..... 34.3..... 35.8...... 36.2...... 34.4
KOBE 2010....... 32.2..... 37.8..... 33.9..... 38.4...... 36.8...... 37.6
And at no stage in Kobe's career did he match MJ's goat offensive efficiency (ortg or PER), or combination of burdeniency combination (usage/ortg)
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
2001, 2002, 2003 kobe is on par with any version of MJ
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 are better than any version of MJ
difference is jordan didnt get forced into feeding another guy in the finals to make him happy
and jordan always had a contending team during his absolute prime
had shaq not threatened to let people score and if the 2006/2007 lakers had a 2nd allstar then kobe probably has 7 rings and 5-6 finals mvps
jordan had the better career because of circumstances that benefited him individually
they both have the same point per shot. kobe was more skilled offensively. jordan was slightly better defensively
sometimes luck can make or break a persons goat status
88-93 Jordan shits on those years
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NBA All-star
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
I'll say peak Kobe is 06 or 08 and 03 has a decent but weaker argument.
not 88-93. Not 96. I lean no on 97, 50/50 on 87 and yes on 98. 98 feels like a 09 kobe type thing where yea he won a title and carried hard but it just wasnt his other years. 09 kobe isnt his peak imo so peak Kobe is better. 97 isnt THAT far off from 96, think it's too good a year. 87 feels interchangeable with something like 06 Kobe so I'm just not tii sure. Besides that 85 and wizards years are pretty much his only full seasons so it's not a lot..
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Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
88-93 Jordan shits on those years
i didnt say kobe had a better season. i said he was a better player
wilt had better seasons than either of mj or kobe but hes not a better player than either
put kobe in jordans body with all his physical advantages then place him in the late 80s where no other human could match up with him
its basically a prime lebron effect
kobe in either body and era would be infinitely better
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
i didnt say kobe had a better season. i said he was a better player
wilt had better seasons than either of mj or kobe but hes not a better player than either
put kobe in jordans body with all his physical advantages then place him in the late 80s where no other human could match up with him
its basically a prime lebron effect
kobe in either body and era would be infinitely better
I wasn't even referring to the outcome of those years, I was referring to them as players
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The Top Gun
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Kobe's peak was better than Jordan, not even close really.
i have no horse in the race....everyone knows this....imma lebron fan i hate both of their fan bases
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NBA Legend
Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
MJ had 4 straight seasons with a TS over 60%. Kobe's best TS ever was 58%.
MJ had 9 seasons averaging over 6 rebounds per game. Kobe had 3.
MJ for his career averaged 2.3 steals per game. Kobe averaged over 2 steals only one season.
MJ averaged over 30 ppg for 8 seasons. Kobe did it 3 times.
MJ was routinely better than peak Kobe.
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Re: What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I wasn't even referring to the outcome of those years, I was referring to them as players
all jordan had on kobe was bigger hands, more physical/athletic advantages over his eras defenders and slightly better on ball defense
he was a better leader earlier on too i guess. but kobe had the killer mentality and was bigger in the playoffs at a younger age. i think kobe was the better talent. i dont care that MJ had the better career or more people think he was better than kobe. its a personal preference
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