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    Default Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Right before the start of the finals media members were floating the idea that Kawhi Leonard was the best player in the world. Why have they stopped pushing that narrative?

    I get the feeling it's because the media were never particularly enamored with Kawhi the way they are with LeBron, KD, and Giannis. They were just talking about it ahead of the finals to hype up the series even though Kawhi deserved the hype more than Giannis did. Now they are backtracking so that the finals doesn't become the final say on who the best in the world is because they don't like Curry or Leonard.
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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    The BITW will never be a turnover machine when you force him to pass.


    (NFL Football fans will remember this)Just like the BITW will never only play one side of the field...Nhamd Asomugha


    The second Kawhi plays with a bad pg, you will see what he really is.He can fool some people but he cant fool all of us.Still a very good player, just not BITW material
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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    He's injured... but he was never the best overall player. Steph is better. But Kawhi is a better two way player and the best two way player in the world.

    Steph - best overall player for an ENTIRE season in the world
    Kawhi - best two way player in the world
    Durant - best on on one player in the world
    LeBron - may very well still be the best player for a series or a single game in the world


    Take from that what you will. The word "best" can just be interpreted in a ridiculous amount of ways.

    To me... best means... which player can you put on any team in the league and irrespective of teammates, they're going to have a huge impact on that team, and can do it for the entirety of a regular season and post season? To me, that's Steph and it has been since 2016, though LeBron was clearly by far and away the best to have for a series at that time.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    You are now seeing him play a real defense...

    Tbh his passing is very robotic for an area of the game that requires creativity.

    He also lacks dexterity slashing, never realized how often he uses the stiff arm.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    I'm a huge fan of Steph but he is not a better overall player than Kawhi. That is just ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon
    He's injured... but he was never the best overall player. Steph is better. But Kawhi is a better two way player and the best two way player in the world.

    Steph - best overall player for an ENTIRE season in the world
    Kawhi - best two way player in the world
    Durant - best on on one player in the world
    LeBron - may very well still be the best player for a series or a single game in the world


    Take from that what you will. The word "best" can just be interpreted in a ridiculous amount of ways.

    To me... best means... which player can you put on any team in the league and irrespective of teammates, they're going to have a huge impact on that team, and can do it for the entirety of a regular season and post season? To me, that's Steph and it has been since 2016, though LeBron was clearly by far and away the best to have for a series at that time.
    Incorrecto.

    Kawhi is a better player and was better in Curry's best season, 2016, when he lead the Spurs to 67 wins with much less help.

    Curry might be slightly better on the offensive end, but the defensive end, which is half the game, the gap is HUGE. This makes Kawhi a better overall player. He's also more clutch/has more killer instinct with the game winding down.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Im so nba'd out
    The BITW will never be a turnover machine when you force him to pass.


    (NFL Football fans will remember this)Just like the BITW will never only play one side of the field...Nhamd Asomugha


    The second Kawhi plays with a bad pg, you will see what he really is.He can fool some people but he cant fool all of us.Still a very good player, just not BITW material
    Being Proctor's jizzrag for so long has turned your brain into mush.



    Kawhi, like Jordan, is an exceptional passer and could be the best at that, too, but he'd be dominating the ball which is a non-optimal way of playing the game of basketball.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger
    Being Proctor's jizzrag for so long has turned your brain into mush.



    Kawhi, like Jordan, is an exceptional passer and could be the best at that, too, but he'd be dominating the ball which is a non-optimal way of playing the game of basketball.
    Exceptional passer by 90

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger
    Being Proctor's jizzrag for so long has turned your brain into mush.



    Kawhi, like Jordan, is an exceptional passer and could be the best at that, too, but he'd be dominating the ball which is a non-optimal way of playing the game of basketball.
    He could never be the best passer because he's not great at it and never will be.Passing is a natural instinct, you cant teach it.

    You dont have to dominated the ball to be a good passer...See Draymond, see Andre Iguodala, see Lonzo Ball, see Marc Gasol, see Ricky Rubio, see Andre Miller, i could keep going.


    Kawhi at most makes 1 exceptional pass a game.Like i said its his only flaw.He is a great player but that is too big of a flaw to be the BITW.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vino24
    Exceptional passer by 90’s standards. Unfortunately he’s not playing against car mechanics and grocery baggers
    The 2019 MVP is a literal street vendor

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Curry gets the most defensive attention of any player since Jordan

    He’s not on Kawhis level defensively, but don’t underestimate his impact. Statistically, Kawhi isn’t far off from Curry offensively, but what doesn’t show in a stat sheet is the important part of Curry’s impact.

    Just the threat of him forced an NBA team to use a Box and One defense in the NBA Finals. Let that sink in

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Nobody was disputing it so there was nothing to talk about.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Because of the series he was having against "Antekumpo" he was being talked about as being the best in the world. (By many, not all.) And that was like two weeks ago. Too long ago.

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger
    Incorrecto.

    Kawhi is a better player and was better in Curry's best season, 2016, when he lead the Spurs to 67 wins with much less help.

    Curry might be slightly better on the offensive end, but the defensive end, which is half the game, the gap is HUGE. This makes Kawhi a better overall player. He's also more clutch/has more killer instinct with the game winding down.
    Did you just say that Curry MIGHT be SLIGHTLY better than Kawhi at scoring?

    Seent it all

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    Default Re: Why has the Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the world talk ceased?

    Considering Kawhi is playing with a better Pippen according to 3ball I see no excuses

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