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    http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/9/23/938...s-9-joe-ingles


    Ingles ended up playing the 6th most minutes on our team last season, not bad for a waiver wire pick up!
    Not bad for him or a team tanking. Bad for basketball though.

    He did appear to assume the role of Jazzman who plays a lot without doing much on the court, but to label his entire season production under this bucket is a bit of an undersell. He shot 35.6% from 3 point land last year, a couple of our three point specialists last year in Hayward and Hood both shot 36% last year from distance. Ingles is a useful perimeter option on a team that could use it, the Jazz were in the bottom half in the league in both 3-point attempts and 3-point %.

    42% after the break!



    Ingles was also a sneaky good defender last year, with only Elijah Millsap being the only rotation player with a higher steal percentage on our team than him.

    the one game he made a bunch of big defensive plays right in a row.

    What to Expect This Season:

    Joe Ingles future role with this team does appear a bit murky. He has great chemistry with our teammates as evidenced by his awesome twitter game. However, camaraderie can only get a wing player so far that is frankly no higher than 4th in the wing player pecking order this season (Burks/Hood/Hayward).
    Not sure what's murky about it. After the way he ended the year a rotation spot is his to lose. There's plenty of minutes for guys that can play. He's in the top 7 guys on the team until someone else steps up.
    Assuming that the shooting guard injury hex lets up just a little bit this season, Ingles playing time is unlikely to be at the same level that it was last season (21.2 MPG). Honestly I'd put the odds at 50/50 of Ingles even making the 8-9 man rotation as we get to the more crucial parts of the season if the Jazz are still in the playoff hunt. With that said, here are my projections for Ingles playing time and stats this season:


    G
    MP
    FGA
    FG%
    3P%
    TRB
    AST
    STL
    PTS
    PER
    WS
    VORP
    60
    17.5
    4
    0.430
    0.350
    2.0
    2.0
    1.0
    5.0
    10.0
    2.0
    0.0



    At this point, Ingles is likely to get the majority of his playing time backing up Gordon Hayward.
    I think he could start. Should play less than Maxi, Burks and Hood.
    Once again, do not expect any jaw-dropping stats from the lovable Aussie, on the flip side of the coin, don't count Ingles out from being on the floor in key moments (especially early on in the season) as he was the master inbounder for multiple gamewinners last year.


    Conclusion:

    Ingles will be on the bubble this season as far as playing time goes. Burks, Hood, and Hayward are clearly going to prioritized over Ingles on this team with Elijah Millsap being another valid threat to his playing time this season as well.
    Joe could win out his role as incumbent and have his minute average in the teens this season, but that's about his likely ceiling of a role on this team unless his talent makes an unexpected jump.
    It did make a jump after the break. You must have missed that?

    He is signed through 2016-17 on the cheap, so keep an eye on him being a possible trade chip over the next 2 seasons.

    Wouldn't count on it

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    http://saltcityhoops.com/the-utah-ja...r-spot-battle/

    [quote]How will Rudy Gobert respond to being the starter from day one, and are NBA teams ready for him? Will Gordon Hayward and Derrick Favors continue their ascent among the league

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    http://saltcityhoops.com/the-most-in...ng-camp-duels/

    he and his boss both come from a discipline that says that training camp exists precisely so that players can re-earn their place in the pecking order by showcasing where and by how much they have improved.
    I certainly hope that is the case but the fact that we keep hearing Burke's name as the starter and Exum before that and Pleiss supposedly the back-up I wonder.
    This guy is a legitimate outside threat on nearly every play
    His mid range game is even better and that's a lost art.

    [quote] But let

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    http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/9/24/939...elijah-millsap

    He now dominates for the Hawks.
    What a joke!


    Elijah (Age 28, Height 6-6) is the third oldest brother and played for lesser known colleges in University Louisiana-Lafayette and University Alabama-Birmingham. He was the best player on Birmingham with 16 points and 9.5 rebounds a game, but this was not enough for him to get drafted in 2010. He played some NBA preseason games for the Thunder in 2010 and the Bucks in 2014 but never made it to get NBA regular season playing time before last season.

    It's hard to believe his D didn't get him in the league. I always wondered why the Jazz hadn't looked at him because of Paul. He was always on the fringe of the league.



    Before moving on with Elijah's story, wanted to mention that the last Millsap brother Abraham (Age 26, Height 6-4) also exists and played in France last season. Back to Elijah!

    Let's get him over for a look! 2 of 3 now isn't bad.



    Elijah was a NBA D-League standout, making NBA D-League All Star and 2nd team in 2012. He was a consistently dominant player in the D-League yet it still took several years before any NBA team took a flier on him to actually play in the big leagues.


    The Jazz gave him that promotion on the 5th of January this year. Where they played him 18 minutes in his professional debut. It is important to remember the context of what the Jazz were facing at this time.
    Alec Burks had his season-ending injury on December 22nd.


    Rodney Hood started having his nagging injury issues on December 30th.
    Patrick Christopher's 4 game stint ended 5 minutes into a Hawks game on January 2nd with a gruesome knee injury.
    It was at that moment Quin Snyder and Paul Millsap made eye contact and it was made abundantly clear that the basketball deities had made it known that injuries would plague the Jazz's shooting guard position worse and worse until they refulfilled balance to the roster with a Millsap once again! (citation needed)
    Enter Elijah
    Elijah went from never playing an NBA regular season game at the age of 27 to playing 47 of 48 of the Jazz's final games this season. And he wasn't just some schmuck playing garbage time either, nope! He played at least 30 minutes 6 times this season and at least 20 minutes 23 times this season.
    Millsap was given his role of defensive nuisance and by the will of Elijah did he play the role to a tee.
    Now his shooting and overall offensive game was underwhelming and even was in the negative impact range, but Lil' Sap would more than make up for it on the defensive end. The Jazz had found themselves a new hustler and his name is Millsap.
    What to Expect This Season:


    Source: Getty Images
    Elijah Millsap is going to be in a bit of a tough spot playing time wise, as was also discussed about Joe Ingles in the previous entry.
    If he hits the 3 there will be plenty of time for him.
    Elijah got his chance to play in the big leagues only because of the injury decimation of our shooting guards last season. What will become of his role with a healthy Burks and Hood ahead of him?


    It took me a long time to decide who would come out ahead between Millsap and Ingles. Looking at the game logs of the 2nd half of last season, there was not a clear player ahead of the other in the playing time pecking order. Quin seemingly would alternate who would get more time depending on matchup as well as in-game situations of whether we needed on-ball defense or the occasional 3 point shot/better passer on the wing more.
    I gave Elijah the nod over Ingles as having a better season this year due to the defensive identity that Quin appears to be building with our team. Joe Ingles really does not provide much to push the needle his way from an impact standpoint when you look at the strengths that Burks, Hood, and Millsap all have.
    Ingles is better all around He was hitting the 3 at the end of the year. He passes. Handles the ball. Leads. And he does play D too.

    Another point to consider in the Joe Ingles vs. Elijah Millsap playing time decision. They will be playing on the 2nd unit

    one could start


    , depending on matchups and the rest of the 2nd unit on the floor at the time, Quin must make the choice of Elijah if he wants to prioritize defense, or Ingles if he needs a glue guy out there. With 2 of Hood/Burks/Booker out there for the 2nd unit, we may need more help on D, than with ball handling or perimeter shooting.

    Millsap makes more sense as a specialist at the end of the bench unless he hits the 3.



    Elijah has got the defensive prowess, and as long as he maintains that hustle, he should find a way to prolong his NBA career. I mean, look at what DeMarre Carroll has done over the last couple seasons...he went from fringe NBA player who hustled to making the big bucks now.

    Yep Demarre and his brother Paul didn't hit the 4 either. It's something you can learn.


    Expect Elijah's playing time to take a little bit of a hit, but not enough to hinder the impact he has on the floor:


    G
    MP
    FGA
    FG%
    3P%
    TRB
    AST
    STL
    PTS
    PER
    WS
    VORP
    60
    16.0
    4
    0.370
    0.320
    3.0
    1.2
    1.0
    6.0
    12.0
    2.0
    0.0



    Elijah Millsap will have many nights where you see him being an effective pest to the other team but then you'll look at his ugly box-score production and see why a player's overall value cannot be limited to just the basic stats.
    Conclusion:

    It is slightly premature at this point to guarantee that Elijah will be a defensive monster this season on the wing for the Jazz. There is still a chance that the Jazz cut him
    no there's not. They could trade him if they wanted for sure. He's an NBAer now.

    or that he simply does not make the rotation this season once all our shooting guards are healthy again.

    Elijah should be given the benefit of the doubt though. He filled in the role he was expected to when the Jazz needed him most last year. Judging from how the identity this team is trying to build, Elijah fits the bill of backup defensive wing this team will need at times.
    Elijah Millsap: Ugly box score; defensive pest

    NBA Rank came out and it didn't even have Elijah Millsap in the top 400, huge snub. We'll see if Elijah will have the chance to make a bigger name for himself this season..


    Make us proud Lil' Sap!

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    https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/...erview-part-2/

    [QUOTE]the good thing about the summer league that was exciting, that made it, I think, even harder when he got hurt, was he had a really poor first quarter and didn

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    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...in-shares.html

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    Spoiler alert: The Utah Jazz are going to the playoffs this season.
    At least that

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    Default Re: 2015 Off-Season

    http://www.slcdunk.com/2015/9/25/939...-trevor-booker

    In today's installment we explore one of our best free agents of the last decade, that's right, good ol' Booker T!
    Not saying much is it?



    [COLOR=#292929]18% of people in the poll said I was OVERRATING him at 7, and 64% agreed with my ranking. Only you clever 19% who said I underrated him made me quite the fool.
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    I'd say you were overrating him. He was a project as a rookie. Last summer was the first glimpse that he might be more.

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    [/COLOR] [COLOR=#292929]but thank goodness he broke out!
    Wasn't supposed to be this good ever!



    How high will Rudy climb this year's previews?
    #1 or bust



    our 3rd consecutive 28 year old for this upcoming season.
    He's 6 or 7. The fact that Trey isn't at the bottom of this list is a joke!

    (Case #2938458 of why the Jazz cannot build a team through free agency, just drafts and trades).
    Harris and Marvin were horrible?
    it looks like Quin Snyder finally gave Booker the go-ahead to shoot the long ball this season.
    It looks like? Another guy that doesn't watch games but just stats?
    the Jazz tried that little experiment and apparently deemed it a failure (31% on wide open threes wasn't blowing anybody away).
    It's not a bad start. He'll certainly be able to shoot it eventually. I think the Thunder want him down low though. He's so good down there you kind of hate having him shooting 3's.

    Trevor Booker's role with the Jazz moving forward is going to be highly contingent on Trey Lyles' development.
    I'd say it has more to do with rather Pleiss or Withey show they are rotation players and how much they can use Maxi G and possibe Ingles/Hood at the 4.


    There will definitely be a handful of interested suitors looking for a cheap 1 year rental in the form of a 3rd big quality player in Booker.
    He's going to get paid a lot next year and I can't see the Jazz wanting to commit a lot to him past next year. They might overpay for him next year to keep him around for one more year.


    [quote]I thought 19 year olds were expected to play right away and the D-league was just a thing to develop the Cooley's of the world?


    it appears unlikely or at least not the best choice for the Jazz to offer him another contract next summer for a few reasons.
    Again to me it's more about the other two bigs than Lyles. Lyles is a player no doubt in my mind. It's just a matter of time.

    1. In today's NBA and salary climate, Booker could easily make twice as much on the open market.
    Maybe a lot more.



    2. The Jazz will have to be very mindful of juggling contracts due to arguably 5 of our top 6 players Hayward, Favors, Exum, Hood, and Gobert all being up for new contracts in 2 crucial back-to-back offseasons in 2017/2018.
    Exum has shown he's a defensive specialist and may never even be that player again after injury. Let's not hype him as a big contract until he shows more. Burke isn't getting a big contract too?



    3. Lyles at less than an average of $3 million per season through 2019 as our backup PF makes more sense than shelling out 8 figures for a 3rd big.
    Lyles has the length and size to play the 5 and with his skill set that could be the place for him in today's game. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.



    at the bare minimum, the first third of the season.
    I see bigger minutes from him this year unless at least one of the other 3 show they deserve minutes. Maxi said he's ready for minutes at the 3 too!



    [COLOR=#292929] his hustle keeps him relevant day in and day out![/font][/COLOR]
    Not to mention his veteran leadership which the team sorely lacks.
    hopefully he even explodes for another 30+ point outburst or too.
    If he does it means Gobert or Favors are hurt.
    sorry Trevor, but we've got bigger mouths to feed.
    Remains to be seen. He and Gobert actually appeared like they might be a better fit than Rudy and Favors.
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    Default Re: 2015 Off-Season

    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2992539...e-favors-looks

    This summer, however, Favors worked on his range. He stopped just short of proclaiming himself ready to launch 3-pointers from the corners of EnergySolutions Arena. But clearly, Favors feels like he's developed more range and the confidence to showcase that range in game situations once the upcoming season begins.
    was expected

    Favors and Rudy Gobert form one of the best defensive frontcourts in the NBA.

    anyone and Rudy does


    [QUOTE]But last season

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