Michael Jordan on his worst day is ten times better than Kobe Bryant on his best day

[3ball]

why do you want to change subjects? all i said was that 06-10 Kobe was better than 96-98 Jordan. Which is true.

i'm not even going to bother with somebody who thinks the 09 & 10 lakers had more talent.

Jordan left the team and in 94 the Bulls won 55 games by replacing him with some dude off the street, and they were even more stacked in 96.

96 Bulls and 86 Celtics are widely regarded as the two most stacked teams of all time

how could kobe have won 2 championships with LESS talent, when his stats were so much worse than Jordan's across the board?

why ignore the stats showing Jordan contributed more to his teams wins than kobe did, and therefore must have had a worse supporting cast?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Jordan's hype machine is just insane. Dude isn't even five times better than Kobe peak vs peak.

[3ball]

who is this healthy bynum you speak of?

Bynum had 1.5-2 good seasons with LA. the season that pau was traded, Bynum was putting up career numbers (though, the years before he was total shit), and went down in memphis that january, missing the next 3-4 months. Had very little impact following, and suffered another injury the following season

it wasnt until mike brown took over as HC that bynum had his truly dominant season. and even then, he was all over the place. the bynum mythology that is often spewed on this site is pretty disgusting.

bynum played 23 mpg in the 2009 Finals averaging 6.4 pts, 4.2 rebs, and 0.4 blocks.

bynum played 25 minutes per game in the 2010 Finals, averaging 7.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, and 1.3 blocks.

by comparison, in the 1998 Finals, Rodman averaged 3.3 pts, 8.3 rebs, and 0.3 blks... in the 1997 Finals, Rodman averaged 2.3 pts, 7.7 rebs, and 0.2 blks.

so there is a lot of Rodman mythology in these threads.

regardless of the splitting of hairs we are doing here, the stats prove the point: kobe's only had a 0.200 WS/48 and worse stats across the board during his prime, than Jordan had in his 2nd three-peat (0.274 WS/48)..

so how could kobe have somehow have contributed MORE to his team's wins with such worse stats?

[3ball]

Jordan isn't even five times better than Kobe peak vs peak.

Kobe's peak 06'-10' vs. Jordan's peak 87'-91'.


Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan: 31.1 PER, 59.6% TS, 52.2% FG, 122 ORtg, WS/48: 0.290


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 43.1 pts, 8.0 rebs, 7.7 assists, 3.7 stls, 1.4 blks





Kobe's peak 06'-10' vs. Jordan's 96'-98'


Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]: 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan: 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe's PEAK was from 2006 - 2008. Just saying.

[WallIn]

Kobe's peak 06'-10' vs. Jordan's peak 87'-91'.


Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan: 31.1 PER, 59.6% TS, 52.2% FG, 122 ORtg, WS/48: 0.290


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 43.1 pts, 8.0 rebs, 7.7 assists, 3.7 stls, 1.4 blks





Kobe's peak 06'-10' vs. Jordan's 96'-98'


Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]: 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan: 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

[Fire Colangelo]

I'd probably take two Kobes over one MJ...

so no lol... he's not 10 times better

[f0und]

not sure what he specifically meant, but ill take rookie-98 jordan over any version of kobe 10 times out of 10.

[f0und]

I'd probably take two Kobes over one MJ...

so no lol... he's not 10 times better

they'd cancel each other out, mabe even make each other worse. two wrongs dont make a right.

[SugarHill]

except during these periods you specify, jordan took worse talent to far superior success against better teams.

[Da_Realist]

It's an exaggeration. What he means is that MJ was a significantly better player. "10 times better" was his way of saying "much better". He even respectfully called MJ "The Black Cat". So yeah, he made his point clear.

[Dragic4Life]

Agreed.

[andgar923]

Reggie has played with them in the league and in the off season, so he's gotten to see them up close in different scenarios.

[gts]

people actually trying to justify these remarks as if they have any merit...

Reggie's delusional or he's trying to keep his legacy intact in some bizarre way seeing how he was abused by Jordan for years....

[mehyaM24]

people actually trying to justify these remarks as if they have any merit...

Reggie's delusional or he's trying to keep his legacy intact in some bizarre way seeing how he was abused by Jordan for years....

10x better. hahahaha. kobe is about as overrated as anyone. ever - but come on! his fanboys will chalk it up to "reggie clearly exaggerating" (which he wasn't). dat hype train keeps on going, baby!