Michael Jordan on his worst day is ten times better than Kobe Bryant on his best day

[MastaKilla]

except during these periods you specify, jordan took worse talent to far superior success against better teams.

are you trying to tell me the 09& 10 Lakers are more stacked than the 96 bulls?

[3ball]

Kobe from 06-10 was better than 2nd 3peat Jordan

Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan (96'-98'): 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

[3ball]

are you trying to tell me the 09& 10 Lakers are more stacked than the 96 bulls?

yes - i'll take pau gasol and healthy andrew bynum over scottie pippen and rodman any day... good thing the bulls had jordan to give them a true inside presence.

lamar and kukocs cancel each other out, although i still like prime lamar's overall contribution more than kukocs.

[MastaKilla]

Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan (96'-98'): 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

why aren't you posting ppg/apg/rpg?

[MastaKilla]

yes - i'll take pau gasol and healthy andrew bynum over scottie pippen and rodman any day... good thing the bulls had jordan to give them a true inside presence.

lamar and kukocs cancel each other out, although i still like prime lamar's overall contribution more than kukocs.

i can't figure out which is more stupid, this overall comment or that you just called "6&4" and "9&6" Bynum healthy

you've jumped the shark

[Da_Realist]

Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan (96'-98'): 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

I'd take what MJ did bumping-n-grinding against the Knicks, Heat and Pacers over whatever Kobe did. If you take a look at what MJ did during the playoffs alone on a game level basis you'll see MJ was a better player.

- 3 straight titles, 3 straight FMVP's, 2 League MVP's, leader of 72 and 69 win teams

This is just the Finals
- Flu game (stomach virus) in the Finals that ends with game winning shot
- Near 39-point triple double
- Game winning buzzer beater
- Championship winning assist
- Championship winning shot-steal-shot combo

[Da_Realist]

yes - i'll take pau gasol and healthy andrew bynum over scottie pippen and rodman any day... good thing the bulls had jordan to give them a true inside presence.

lamar and kukocs cancel each other out, although i still like prime lamar's overall contribution more than kukocs.

What?

No, no, no. Scottie and Rodman were winners. Tough, hardened and seasoned. With them you win 72 and 69 games. MJ+Pippen+Rodman would embarrass Kobe+Gasol+Bynum. 6 games tops.

[SouBeachTalents]

except during these periods you specify, jordan took worse talent to far superior success against better teams.

Dude's right, those Bulls teams were utter trash. Pippen made an All-NBA team every year of the second 3peat, including a first team in '96, and made the All-Defensive First Team all 3 years as well. Rodman led the league in rebounding every year of that second 3peat, and you had a sixth man of the year in Kukoc coming off the bench. Oh, and Phil Jackson was coaching also. Those Bulls teams were terrible

[nba_55]

Didn't Bulls win 55 games without Jordan? That homer is trying to convince us Bulls were not stacked hahahahahhaha

[3ball]

Kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 25.0 PER, 56.5% TS, 45.9% FG, 114 ORtg, WS/48: 0.200

Jordan (96'-98'): 27.4 PER, 56.0 TS, 48.2% FG, 119 ORtg, WS/48: 0.279


Per-100 Possession stats

Kobe:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 39.2 pts, 7.3 rebs, 6.6 assists, 2.0 stls, 0.5 blks,
Jordan: 41.4 pts, 8.5 rebs, 5.5 assists, 2.6 stls, 0.7 blks

why aren't you posting ppg/apg/rpg?

per-100 possession stats are an unbiased comparison of raw production, because it factors in pace and playing time differences.

what difference would it make - kobe's numbers are lower regardless:

kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 29.8 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.4 bpg, 45.9% FG
jordan (96'-'98'): 29.6 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1.9 stls, 0.5 bpg, 48.2% FG


now that was kobe's prime vs. MJ's 2nd three-peat... you want to compare jordan's prime (87-91) to kobe's (06'-10')?

[3ball]

Dude's right, those Bulls teams were utter trash. Pippen made an All-NBA team every year of the second 3peat, including a first team in '96, and made the All-Defensive First Team all 3 years as well. Rodman led the league in rebounding every year of that second 3peat, and you had a sixth man of the year in Kukoc coming off the bench. Oh, and Phil Jackson was coaching also. Those Bulls teams were terrible

scottie and rodman were nice, but kobe's supporting cast with gasol, bynum and odom was better - and they had phil too!

the stats prove that jordan was contributing MUCH more to his teams wins than kobe: Jordan's WS/48 was 0.274 from 96' to 98', while kobe's was only 0.200 during his prime of 06' to 10'.

[Levity]

yes - i'll take pau gasol and healthy andrew bynum over scottie pippen and rodman any day... good thing the bulls had jordan to give them a true inside presence.

lamar and kukocs cancel each other out, although i still like prime lamar's overall contribution more than kukocs.

who is this healthy bynum you speak of?

Bynum had 1.5-2 good seasons with LA. the season that pau was traded, Bynum was putting up career numbers (though, the years before he was total shit), and went down in memphis that january, missing the next 3-4 months. Had very little impact following, and suffered another injury the following season

it wasnt until mike brown took over as HC that bynum had his truly dominant season. and even then, he was all over the place. the bynum mythology that is often spewed on this site is pretty disgusting.

but back to the quote in the OP. i understand miller sees himself as a writer and often uses excessive hyperbole, but with that quote, miller went down the ben stiller path from simple jack... fully retarded

[BigBoss]

Kobe scored 55 on Jordan
Jordans career low: 2 points-was againt Kobe.

[MastaKilla]

per-100 possession stats are an unbiased comparison of raw production, because it factors in pace and playing time differences.

what difference would it make - kobe's numbers are lower regardless:

kobe [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](06'-10'): 29.8 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.4 bpg, 45.9% FG
jordan (96'-'98'): 29.6 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1.9 stls, 0.5 bpg, 48.2% FG


now that was kobe's prime vs. MJ's 2nd three-peat... you want to compare jordan's prime (87-91) to kobe's (06'-10')?

why do you want to change subjects? all i said was that 06-10 Kobe was better than 96-98 Jordan. Which is true.

i'm not even going to bother with somebody who thinks the 09 & 10 lakers had more talent.

Jordan left the team and in 94 the Bulls won 55 games by replacing him with some dude off the street, and they were even more stacked in 96.

96 Bulls and 86 Celtics are widely regarded as the two most stacked teams of all time

[3ball]

How could kobe have a worse supporting cast AND have worse personal stats across the board, yet still win two championships?

Jordan's superior stats alone prove that he had a worse supporting cast.
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