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Old 11-01-2011, 12:34 PM   #16
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and his team got hammered LOL. wasn't even close to winning it. stat padding does not count
Game 7...5 point game. How does one "stat pad" to the level of 45 points in a game like that?

Should I just expect you to not "see" this post?
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:36 PM   #17
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It also treats all overtime stats the same as a normal game which overrates them a bit.
So other than counting overtime stats equally, you find no other issues with this? I'm just not usually a fan of abritrary formulas. *Like why is a certain stat is multiplied by 0.7*
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:39 PM   #18
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So other than counting overtime stats equally, you find no other issues with this? I'm just not usually a fan of abritrary formulas. *Like why is a certain stat is multiplied by 0.7*

Can you offer up an alternative? Any stat that produces a single number to represent a player's impact on a game isn't going to be perfect.

Ideally the perfect formula for this particular list would account for only scoring, efficiency, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers.

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Old 11-01-2011, 12:50 PM   #19
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Can you offer up an alternative? Any stat that produces a single number to represent a player's impact on a game isn't going to be perfect.

Ideally the perfect formula for this particular list would account for only scoring, efficiency, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers.
Oh no, it's just interesting that you use this formula that's all.

Just a little fact; going by that method of ranking, Jordan's 69 against Cleveland is considered better than Kobe's 81 (that's assuming they played against equal defense).

Then of course you look at the defense and see quite a discrepancy (113 vs. 107) in defensive rating favouring the Cavaliers.

So, my question is, is Jordan's 69 a better performance (against a better defense) than Kobe's 81?
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:00 PM   #20
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Oh no, it's just interesting that you use this formula that's all.

Just a little fact; going by that method of ranking, Jordan's 69 against Cleveland is considered better than Kobe's 81 (that's assuming they played against equal defense).

Then of course you look at the defense and see quite a discrepancy (113 vs. 107) in defensive rating favouring the Cavaliers.

So, my question is, is Jordan's 69 a better performance (against a better defense) than Kobe's 81?

That was your big set up.

Its 64.6 vs 63.5 GameScore wise. Jordan had 18 rebounds that game too and the game went to overtime. If I made the top 10 regular season game performances against weak defenses I would have listed Jordan #1.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:02 PM   #21
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That was your big set up.

Its 64.6 vs 63.5 GameScore wise. Jordan had 18 rebounds that game too and the game went to overtime. If I made the top 10 regular season game performances against weak defenses I would have listed Jordan #1.
Because Kobe scored 81 against the legendary raptors d.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:06 PM   #22
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Because Kobe scored 81 against the legendary raptors d.

Kobe would be #2 on that list.

I don't know why Jordan stans are mad at Kobe. Vince Carter tops this list.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:31 PM   #23
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Because Kobe scored 81 against the legendary raptors d.

How did Lebron do vs the Legendary Mavs D?
17.8 ppg, 5th leading scoere, outscored by a bench player
an 8 point game
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:38 PM   #24
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How did Lebron do vs the Legendary Mavs D?
17.8 ppg, 5th leading scoere, outscored by a bench player
an 8 point game
8th in Drtg, 5th in pts allowed per game.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:38 PM   #25
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How did Lebron do vs the Legendary Mavs D?
17.8 ppg, 5th leading scoere, outscored by a bench player
an 8 point game
Why u always bringing up lebron brah? U hella scared he gone surpass kobe.
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Why u always bringing up lebron brah? U hella scared he gone surpass kobe.
Yep. He scared. Add Wade as well.

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Old 11-01-2011, 01:46 PM   #27
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Why u always bringing up lebron brah? U hella scared he gone surpass kobe.
surpass him in what?
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surpass him in what?
Why are you askin'?
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:28 PM   #29
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That was your big set up.

Its 64.6 vs 63.5 GameScore wise. Jordan had 18 rebounds that game too and the game went to overtime. If I made the top 10 regular season game performances against weak defenses I would have listed Jordan #1.
Oh I don't really care, I just see "81" in every thread Kobe is mentioned, (especially as ammo against Jordan who's never done it) and knowing you're a Kobe fan was curious how you'd view that with the criteria you used for playoff games.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:33 PM   #30
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Oh I don't really care, I just see "81" in every thread Kobe is mentioned, (especially as ammo against Jordan who's never done it) and knowing you're a Kobe fan was curious how you'd view that with the criteria you used for playoff games.

Of course you care. That's why you are in this thread attempting to trip me up and failing.
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