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Old 05-05-2011, 11:59 PM   #31
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Default Re: Top 10 players of all time?

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I'm curious to see what other people think.
Criteria should be:
how good the player was at his peak
consistency
abilities/talent
championships (extra as the best player)
ability in the clutch ( would you trust him in a do-or-die game?)
was he a difference maker on good teams?

My list has to be:

1. Michael Jordan

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Magic Johnson

5. Larry Bird

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Kobe Bryant

9. Jerry West

10. Oscar Robertson


I can never decide between Oscar and Shaq, I'll just give it to Oscar.

We have the same top six. I like Wilt a little more than you. I can excuse him only having two titles because of dealing with Russell. The other superstars of the era, Oscar, West, Baylor, Pettit all ended up with one or zero.

The Jordan vs. Russell debate is the hardest for me; mostly because it's impossible to find someone who understands both players to discuss who two guys so fundamentally different in nearly every way became the two greatest players in the history of the sport.

I think you're being too hard on Shaq. For all his flaws and his early struggles in the postseason, he had a seven year run where he won four titles, went to the finals five times and was one of if not the best player in the league all the while. That's something guys like Oscar and West never did.

good take on an often tackled topic.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:00 AM   #32
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here is how it should look like... watch and learn...


1. MICHAEL JORDAN
2. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
3. KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
4. BILL RUSSELL
5. MAGIC JOHNSON
6. LARRY BIRD
7. OSCAR ROBERTSON
8. SHAQUILLE ONEAL
9. TIM DUNCAN
10. HAKEEM OLAJUWON

ONLY AFTER THEM DOES KOBE BELONG AND ARGUABLY... FIGHTING FOR THAT #11 SPOT WITH JULIUS ERVING AND JERRY WEST..............

Thats retarded. Julius Erving never won a championship except as a second banana to Moses Malone. Jerry West won one championship and had horrible finals series that year. Hakeem Olajuwan only had 2 championships that coincided with Jordan's retirement. Besides 5 championships, Kobe is # 6 on all-time scoring (will be #5 next year) and #4 in playoff scoring (might be #3 after this year.) Even an avowed Kobe hater like Bill Simmons has Kobe as # 8. Peole who don't think Kobe is top 10 are as deluded who think Kobe is as good as Jordan.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:02 AM   #33
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Default Re: Top 10 players of all time?

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Originally Posted by edhemsoccer
I'm curious to see what other people think.
Criteria should be:
how good the player was at his peak
consistency
abilities/talent
championships (extra as the best player)
ability in the clutch ( would you trust him in a do-or-die game?)
was he a difference maker on good teams?

My list has to be:

1. Michael Jordan

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Magic Johnson

5. Larry Bird

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Kobe Bryant

9. Jerry West

10. Oscar Robertson


I can never decide between Oscar and Shaq, I'll just give it to Oscar.

This is exactly Bill Simmons' list.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:02 AM   #34
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Default Re: Top 10 players of all time?

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Tim Duncan
9. Shaquille O'Neal
10. Hakeem Olujawon
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:03 AM   #35
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We have the same top six. I like Wilt a little more than you. I can excuse him only having two titles because of dealing with Russell. The other superstars of the era, Oscar, West, Baylor, Pettit all ended up with one or zero.

The Jordan vs. Russell debate is the hardest for me; mostly because it's impossible to find someone who understands both players to discuss who two guys so fundamentally different in nearly every way became the two greatest players in the history of the sport.

I think you're being too hard on Shaq. For all his flaws and his early struggles in the postseason, he had a seven year run where he won four titles, went to the finals five times and was one of if not the best player in the league all the while. That's something guys like Oscar and West never did.

good take on an often tackled topic.

I agree about Shaq - he is clearly top 10.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:03 AM   #36
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WTF? shaq should be on EVERYONES top 10 list...
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:04 AM   #37
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Default Re: Top 10 players of all time?

1. Michael Jordan

2. Magic Johnson

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Larry Bird

5. Bill Russell

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Shaquille O'Neal

9. Hakeem Olajuwon.

10. Kobe Bryant
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:08 AM   #38
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This is exactly Bill Simmons' list.
You sure? I thought he had Kobe around 15?
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:09 AM   #39
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Kobe is barely Top 10. He is so overrated on all-time terms. All those people were constantly the number 1 options and the best players on all of their championship teams.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:11 AM   #40
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Default Re: Top 10 players of all time?

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Oscar Robertson
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Shaquille O'neal
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:12 AM   #41
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Kobe is barely Top 10. He is so overrated on all-time terms. All those people were constantly the number 1 options and the best players on all of their championship teams.

kareem(magic), magic(kareem), shaq(wade), wilt(west) or west(wilt)
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:12 AM   #42
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1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Oscar Robertson
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Shaquille O'neal
10. Tim Duncan

wheres kobe?
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:15 AM   #43
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Kobe is barely Top 10. He is so overrated on all-time terms. All those people were constantly the number 1 options and the best players on all of their championship teams.
Kareem wasn't the best on all of the Lakers teams. Shaq wasn't the best in Miami. And(not really knocking to much on Bird) Cedric Maxwell was the number 1 option in Bird's first championship.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:16 AM   #44
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Oscar shouldn't be in the top 10.

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson/Larry Bird
6. Larry Bird/Magic Johnson
7. Shaq
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon/Kobe Bryant
10. Kobe Bryant/Hakeem Olajuwon
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:17 AM   #45
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1. Michael Jordan

2. Magic Johnson

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. Larry Bird

5. Bill Russell

6. Wilt Chamberlain

7. Tim Duncan

8. Shaquille O'Neal

9. Hakeem Olajuwon.

10. Kobe Bryant

id put kareem at 2, russel at 3, magic and bird at 4/5 and we have identical lists!
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