Dan Lebatard: Warriors won't be any more great if they win the series, its a small

[Showtime80']

Overrating yes, OVERRATING!!!

Like I said, nice numbers and very improved overall play from Russ in the LAST 8 GAMES!!! Aside from that he's been the MODEL of frustrating decision making inconsistency his whole career! For his sake and for the Thunder going forward I hope he keeps it up.

Let them win THEIR FIRST championship first before putting them in the same league as ANY of the duos Jordan faced!

Let's not even put them in the same league with the super teams of the 1980's and the Bulls of the 90's until they win MULTIPLE RINGS!

[NBAGOAT]

What overrating of KD and Russ?

Name me 2 other PGs who have put up 24/10/8...
In fact, name me all the PGs who have put up at least 24 and 10.

haha ikr. It's pretty much Oscar and Magic. Shoutout to Tiny Archibald however and I had to use play index to find Michael Adams. Also can't believe some of the teams he claimed as definitely better than the Thunder, disrespectful.

[imdaman99]

And here comes the overrating of KD-Russ!!! Guys who after YEARS IN THE NBA have finally gotten their head out of their a!ses in the LAST 8 GAMES!!!

Even though the mid to late 90's were watered down Jordan and the Bulls still beat teams BETTER THAN THE THUNDER in the decade:

Pistons
Knicks
Suns
Magic
Sonics
Jazz

Hey dipshit, Durant and Westbrook are playoff beasts. They just were injured every year in the playoffs. The last time they were healthy, they made the Finals. So they are pretty damn good.

[NBAGOAT]

Overrating yes, OVERRATING!!!

Like I said, nice numbers and very improved overall play from Russ in the LAST 8 GAMES!!! Aside from that he's been the MODEL of frustrating decision making inconsistency his whole career! For his sake and for the Thunder going forward I hope he keeps it up.

Let them win THEIR FIRST championship first before putting them in the same league as ANY of the duos Jordan faced!

Let's not even put them in the same league with the super teams of the 1980's and the Bulls of the 90's until they win MULTIPLE RINGS!

this contradictory logic. You say the Thunder have to win a championship to be in the same category as duos Jordan faced even though none of those duos won a championship(not even the 2 years when Jordan was retired) and the Jazz were the only team to ever make the Finals twice so you can't say it was just because of Jordan they never won. The Jazz even had chances after Jordan retired but didn't win.

[K Xerxes]

Exactly.

People act as if they have to be unbeatable, and have to win the championship to be considered an all time great team. They don't, and neither were the 96 Bulls, or any other great 65+ win team.

They are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

It's one thing to have a historically great season and lose in the playoffs in a tight match up against another great team that goes the distance, or sustain an injury and lose because of that. But they have been outplayed in this series so far, with two complete blowouts and counting. I think they can pull this back, but let's see.

[IGOTGAME]

Exactly.

People act as if they have to be unbeatable, and have to win the championship to be considered an all time great team. They don't, and neither were the 96 Bulls, or any other great 65+ win team.

They are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

You have to win in the playoffs against competition to be mentioned among the greatest teams in history. You don't get to jump over Jordan's Bulls or Magics lakers because of a regular season record you gunned for. The object is to win a title and it looks like GSW team has failed the first legit test.

[Sarcastic]

He's right.


But the masses like to resort to the lazy and stupid basketball analysis of nothing matters, and evetything is irrelevant unless it results in a championship and dominance, so that's where we are.

The championship is what they play for. Every player knows it's the most important thing. Winning random games against unfocused inferior teams in February cannot compare to the intensity, and focus that you see in the playoffs. The post season gives us the highest level of basketball in the world. If you can't come through in that time, then you are not the best, and certainly have no case for best of all time.

[3ball]

The Warriors are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

In the regular season.. yes..

But the playoffs are a different, higher level of competition - only the better teams make the playoffs, where the game-planning and effort level is on an entirely different level.

Within this different competitive environment and higher level of competition, many regular season teams have weaknesses exposed that weren't exposed in the regular season - many teams prove to not be as good as they were in the regular season.

If you can't understand this, than you have a very poor understanding of how basketball works.

Also, each playoff round isn't a 1-game series like the ncaa tournament - it's a 7-game series, so the better team almost always wins - and the best team ALWAYS wins when they're blowing the opponent out like OKC is doing the Warriors.

[tmacattack33]

Sample. So this is what it comes down to. He argues that the NBA is a large representive sample and that is winning the series is irrelevant to their greatness. People with no background in stats should shut up, this guy is just acting silly because he has been nothing but wrong on this

So 82 pre-season (regular season in the NBA is really pre-season for any elite team) games mean more than the Western Conference Finals?

[3ball]

So 82 pre-season (regular season in the NBA is really pre-season for any elite team) games mean more than the Western Conference Finals?

this.

the preseason is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the regular season.. and the regular season is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the playoffs.

By blowing the Warriors out at the highest competition level (playoffs), OKC has proven they're a FAR better team than the Warriors - that means the Warriors aren't an all-time great team.

[3ball]

He's right.


But the masses like to resort to the lazy and stupid basketball analysis of nothing matters, and evetything is irrelevant unless it results in a championship and dominance, so that's where we are.

You stat bots don't understand the game - the preseason is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the regular season.. and the regular season is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the playoffs.

By blowing the Warriors out at the highest competition level (playoffs), OKC has proven they're a FAR better team than the Warriors - that means the Warriors aren't an all-time great team.

[OnFire]

Because he is a fat guy on the radio. He has a cool job but he doesn't know more about basketball than top posters here. If we were gonna break down tape he'd be lost. He is just a personality with a platform, who is using that platform to say silly things.

I don't usually listen to sports radio, but if this is what he does everyday then he is a silly, sad man

He's a longstanding widely repected sports journalist not just some guy whos new. Of course he isnt a super specialized basketball mind who can expertly break down film but how many of those can carry a daily 4 hour show.? Thats why those guys are typically guests and not hosts.

Sorry he doesnt argue back and forth about stans and shit all day with 3 other people pretending to be 40 people.

[IGOTGAME]

You stat bots don't understand the game - the preseason is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the regular season.. and the regular season is a completely different and lower competitive environment than the playoffs.

By blowing the Warriors out at the highest competition level (playoffs), OKC has proven they're a FAR better team than the Warriors - that means the Warriors aren't an all-time great team.

It's even worst, they have no understanding of statistical analysis. I'll explain the faulty reasoning later tonight

[IGOTGAME]

He's a longstanding widely repected sports journalist not just some guy whos new. Of course he isnt a super specialized basketball mind who can expertly break down film but how many of those can carry a daily 4 hour show.? Thats why those guys are typically guests and not hosts.

Sorry he doesnt argue back and forth about stans and shit all day with 3 other people pretending to be 40 people.

Is that what you assume I do? Because your far off...I post on off time during work if I'm bored. But the topic was in reference to his opinion on this series, not hosting a talk show.

[moongaze]

Exactly.

People act as if they have to be unbeatable, and have to win the championship to be considered an all time great team. They don't, and neither were the 96 Bulls, or any other great 65+ win team.

They are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

You're only a great team if you win the championship. Regular season games is what were basing teams on now, really? It's not about what they do when it matters most? You just have to be hot when the chips aren't on the table?