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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Well, to be fair to Wilt...he was routinely facing Russell in either the first or second round almost every post-season of the 60's. Furthermore, Russell beefed up his post-season stats against the Lakers in five Finals (actually six, but in the one in which he faced Wilt he did nothing.) Had Chamberlain had the opportunity to have battled the Lakers even once in the decade of the 60's, and he would certainly hold some scoring and efficiency records.
The prove:
- a past his prime Wilt, just returning from season ending injury (1969-70), and few months ahead of his 34th birthday had a game 6 vs Knicks (without Reed) in which he had 45 points (on 20 from 27), 27 rebs, 3 asists. And his series averages were among the best ever registered by a center.
Why I post that particular game, because it is the only game from 6 Finals series where Wilt doesn't have HOF opposition at center.
- when facing non-Celtics teams in the post season in his high scoring Wariors days (1959-64) his series averages were around 38 points per game.
- he had games vs Lakers, where his dominance was ...comical and had numbers, which are hard to believe. (78 points - 43 rebs game)
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by julizaver
The prove:
- a past his prime Wilt, just returning from season ending injury (1969-70), and few months ahead of his 34th birthday had a game 6 vs Knicks (without Reed) in which he had 45 points (on 20 from 27), 27 rebs, 3 asists. And his series averages were among the best ever registered by a center.
Why I post that particular game, because it is the only game from 6 Finals series where Wilt doesn't have HOF opposition at center.
- when facing non-Celtics teams in the post season in his high scoring Wariors days (1959-64) his series averages were around 38 points per game.
- he had games vs Lakers, where his dominance was ...comical and had numbers, which are hard to believe. (78 points - 43 rebs game)
Yep...Chamberlain slaughtered the "Todd McCulloughs" of his era, in the few playoff series in which he faced one.
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Marchesk
In scoring, rebounding, assists (total) or FG%.
Jordan: 13 (scoring, steals)
Shaq: 11 (scoring, FG%)
Kareem: 8 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Magic: 7 (assists, steals, FT%)
Russell: 5 (rebounds)
Hakeem: 5 (rebounds, blocks)
Bird: 4 (FT%)
Kobe: 2 (scoring
Lebron: 1 (scoring)
Plus, in the playoffs, where Wilt is supposedly not a GOAT level performer:
Wilt: 11 (scoring, rebounding, FG% - would be more, accounting for blocked shots)
Jordan: 12 (scoring, steals)
Shaq: 6 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Kareem: 13 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Magic: 7 (assists, steals)
Russell: 7 (rebounds - would be more, accounting for blocked shots)
Hakeem: 8 (scoring, rebounds, blocks)
Bird: 0
Kobe: 2 (scoring)
Lebron: 2 (scoring)
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Psileas
Plus, in the playoffs, where Wilt is supposedly not a GOAT level performer:
Wilt: 11 (scoring, rebounding, FG% - would be more, accounting for blocked shots)
Jordan: 12 (scoring, steals)
Shaq: 6 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Kareem: 13 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Magic: 7 (assists, steals)
Russell: 7 (rebounds - would be more, accounting for blocked shots)
Hakeem: 8 (scoring, rebounds, blocks)
Bird: 0
Kobe: 2 (scoring)
Lebron: 2 (scoring)
I believe that Julizaver last had Chamberlain with 591 post-season blocks in his 81 known games...or considerably more in 81 games, than what Duncan has had in his 241 playoff games (555.)
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Wilt Davis
Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
I believe that Julizaver last had Chamberlain with 591 post-season blocks in his 81 known games...or considerably more in 81 games, than what Duncan has had in his 241 playoff games (555.)
7.3 blocks per game in the post season. Do you have the numbers from his last post season? Kareem averaged 2.4 blocks the next year in the playoffs. That led the league. Looking at BR, Kareem led the postseason in blocks for five consecutive seasons after Wilt retired, and his highest was 4.1.
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Marchesk
7.3 blocks per game in the post season. Do you have the numbers from his last post season? Kareem averaged 2.4 blocks the next year in the playoffs. That led the league. Looking at BR, Kareem led the postseason in blocks for five consecutive seasons after Wilt retired, and his highest was 4.1.
nbastats.net has Wilt with 46 blocks in 5 known games.
I believe that Julizaver had an article that claimed that Wilt had a total of 49 blocks in the seven game Bulls series. Then, Julizaver had Wilt with 29 known blocks in four of the five game series against the Warriors in the WCF's. And we know he had 7 blocks in game one of the Finals.
Using that data...
Chamberlain had a total of 85 blocks in his known 12 games (out of 17 total)...or 7.2 bpg. Even if we don't give Wilt any blocks in his other five games, he would still have averaged 5.0 bpg in the '73 post-season.
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Marchesk
In scoring, rebounding, assists (total) or FG%.
Jordan: 13 (scoring, steals)
Shaq: 11 (scoring, FG%)
Kareem: 8 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Magic: 7 (assists, steals, FT%)
Russell: 5 (rebounds)
Hakeem: 5 (rebounds, blocks)
Bird: 4 (FT%)
Kobe: 2 (scoring
Lebron: 1 (scoring)
Originally Posted by jlip
I didn't feel like starting another thread but I was just looking at Kareem statistically. Looking at his first 16 seasons...1970-1985
Reg. season
26.6ppg 12.5rpg 4.0apg 3.0bpg 56.2fg% 71.8 ft%
Playoffs
27.4ppg 12.6rpg 3.8apg 3.0bpg 54.0fg% 72.9ft%
At that time his 27.4ppg was 2nd all time for retired players behind only Jerry West.
In the reg. season he had led the league in:
Scoring- 2X
Rebounding- 1X
Fg%- 1X
Blocks- 4X
In the playoffs he had led the league in:
Scoring- 5X
Rebounding- 1X
Fg%- 1X
Blocks- 6X
...
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
BTW, Chamberlain had a known 80 blocked shots, in 10 known post-season games, in his '72 title run.
He had a 9 block game in the first game of the first round; 33 known blocks against the Bucks in 4 known games of the WCF's (15 against Kareem); and ThaRegul8r had Chamberlain with 38 blocks in his five finals games... or 80 blocks in 10 known games... 8.0 bpg. Even if you give him zero in his other five post-season games, he would still have averaged 5.3 bpg in his '72 post-season.
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
BTW, Chamberlain had a known 80 blocked shots, in 10 known post-season games, in his '72 title run.
He had a 9 block game in the first game of the first round; 33 known blocks against the Bucks in 4 known games of the WCF's (15 against Kareem); and ThaRegul8r had Chamberlain with 38 blocks in his five finals games... or 80 blocks in 10 known games... 8.0 bpg. Even if you give him zero in his other five post-season games, he would still have averaged 5.3 bpg in his '72 post-season.
lol ok
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Marchesk
In scoring, rebounding, assists (total) or FG%.
Jordan: 13 (scoring, steals)
Shaq: 11 (scoring, FG%)
Kareem: 8 (scoring, rebounding, blocks, FG%)
Magic: 7 (assists, steals, FT%)
Russell: 5 (rebounds)
Hakeem: 5 (rebounds, blocks)
Bird: 4 (FT%)
Kobe: 2 (scoring
Lebron: 1 (scoring)
I find it curious that you left Oscar Robertson off your list:
Oscar Robertson: 10 (APG, PPG, FT%)
He also led the league in total FTs four times.
He's the most underrated pantheon level player.
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by WillC
I find it curious that you left Oscar Robertson off your list:
Oscar Robertson: 10 (APG, PPG, FT%)
I didn't feel like listing every great player, just some of them as a comparison. I think MJ is probably second to Wilt in the regular season in leading the league with 13 (for regular stats, not advanced).
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
has anyone asked jeff to make a modern era NBA board for legit topics people are interested in and a pre modern forum for trash like this
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by senelcoolidge
Most dominate player ever. Too bad he played during the 60's when the Celtics were rolling. He could have won several more championships. I mean he carried some lackluster rosters to the finals multiple times.
dominant*
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
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Re: Wilt led the league 28 times
Originally Posted by Westbrook0
dominant*
Jesus Christ, are you like the spelling police? You always correct people and their spelling.
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