Whos Clutcher: Ray Allen or Derek Fisher

[thejumpa]

Ray. He has done as the #1 guy many times, during the regular season many times, and during the playoffs many times. Fisher is more of a one incredibly clutch shot kind of guy. Ray can get hot and light you up for 30-35 easy if he get's going.

[imnew09]

Fisher.

Fisher is the "guy" you want to pass the ball to during big shots moments.
Even though Ray is the best shooter, but he's not better than Fisher during "clutch" shots.

[Real Men Wear Green]

um......... fisher. Lets think about it. Ray allen is obviously the more skilled player. supposedly has the best jumpshot in the league. Wouldnt his clutch shots come as being expected???? while fisher whos a GOOD player, not a star like ray ray, hits shots that are unexpected, and does it at relatively the same rate ray allen does.

All that matters is that you hit them. That's what determines whether or not you are clutch, and how clutch. Is Robert Horry more clutch than Reggie Miller? And the fact that Allen is known to be the more dangerous player and thus the bigger target for defenses (especially before he came to Boston) just makes him more impressive. Fisher isn't even the most clutch shooter on his own team, and if defenses were really focused on him he'd get nothing. He certainly gets respect for cashing in on the opportunities he's presented with but lets not make him out to be more than he really is.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ray Allen.

WTF are people smoking when they mention Fisher?

"Purple" haze.

[pete's montreux]

Ray Allen hit more clutch shots in a single series than Fisher has his entire career.

[Duranthebest]

In Allen's 13 or 14year career, I've seen him hit maybe 1 or 2 "game winning jumpers" in 1-on-1 situations. If he isn't coming off a screen, he's useless in clutch situations.

Give me Fisher.

[swe_suns]

I think I'm going with Fisher on this one. The thing is, Allen is much more consistent in the sense that he plays pretty well throughout the season and keeps it up in the playoffs (yes he has some 0-7 games etc but not as often as Fisher).

Fisher on the other hand can SUCK very bad during the regular season or like 46 minutes of a game and then suddenly he has the ability to knock down the 3pt shot. It's crazy, the last one I remember was the one against Miami last year (u know the game with Kobe's ridiculous gamewinner over Wade). Also he has done this so many times against the Suns and also did it in the 09 finals and 10 finals.

[pete's montreux]

I don't get how Fisher sucking in the regular season and playing well in the post-season is a good thing.

[Killbot]

All that matters is that you hit them. That's what determines whether or not you are clutch, and how clutch. Is Robert Horry more clutch than Reggie Miller? And the fact that Allen is known to be the more dangerous player and thus the bigger target for defenses (especially before he came to Boston) just makes him more impressive. Fisher isn't even the most clutch shooter on his own team, and if defenses were really focused on him he'd get nothing. He certainly gets respect for cashing in on the opportunities he's presented with but lets not make him out to be more than he really is.

Exactly.
Ray Allen when he was with the Sonics was the first option. The best perimeter defender of the opposing team would be on Allen, while Fisher gets secondary one.
Usually it's Kobe doing the work in the 4th quarter and not Fisher.

OH and http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
That's just game winning shots. Sure Fisher FG% is 1.5% greater, but he shot less. It's easier to get high percentages with less shots.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

I don't get how Fisher sucking in the regular season and playing well in the post-season is a good thing.

He sucks in the playoffs too then he makes a couple of big plays and people hype him up despite him playing bad through out the playoffs.

[ProfessorMurder]

Ray and it's not close.

[bokes15]

Ray and it's not close.

this

[cgr1zzly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZOKaPHuOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqKw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVBP...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iK2P...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGDMO...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TdZH...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWerZ...eature=related


DO I WIN THE INTERNETS.

[C-Webb4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZOKaPHuOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqKw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVBP...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iK2P...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGDMO...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TdZH...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWerZ...eature=related


DO I WIN THE INTERNETS.

Or.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x99mER-dzFw

And I guarantee you it took me 1/10th of the time that you took to find all of those.

[cgr1zzly]

lol. how many were in non playoff games, or when the game was tied???