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    Default Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Tim Duncan's postseason ranks:
    Top-5 in scoring
    Top-3 in rebounding
    Top-1 in blocks

    Top 3 in Win Shares

    Duncan also passed Wilt for 2nd All-Time in playoff defensive win shares last game.

    Last edited by ArbitraryWater; 05-11-2014 at 01:15 PM.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Tim Duncan's postseason ranks:
    Top-5 in scoring
    Top-3 in rebounding
    Top-1 in blocks

    Duncan also passed Wilt for 2nd All-Time in playoff defensive win shares last game.

    Can you back these cl-

    Wait i believe you, you are a credible poster.

    Good post OP.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Tim Duncan's postseason ranks:
    Top-5 in scoring
    Top-3 in rebounding
    Top-1 in blocks

    Duncan also passed Wilt for 2nd All-Time in playoff defensive win shares last game.

    he played too many playoffs games because he was always stacked as hell (goat coach, goat role players like horry, bowen, finley, barry....) 2 hall of famers 10 years with him....

    when he was playing a bad series...or ginobili or parker always to the rescue...

    pd: and WEAK era also.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    worst Finals MVP TS% in the modern era

    21 ppg 47%TS, your Finals MVP

    while Manu put up 19 6 5 on 50/39/85 shooting in the Finals, shot above 60% in 3 games of that series and led the Spurs in Game 7 with 23 pts on 62% shooting while Duncan goes for 10/27

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Top 3 in Win Shares too.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    Top 3 in Win Shares too.
    And where is he ranked in total games played?

    It shows his durability, but honestly, he is one of the most overrated Playoff performers ever. His team has consistently been a contender for his entire career and he's never even made it to two straight Finals and has only won 4 rings while Kobe had a legit contender for maybe 9 years of his career(2000-2004, 2008-2011) and went to 7 Finals and won 5.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    worst Finals MVP TS% in the modern era

    21 ppg 47%TS, your Finals MVP

    while Manu put up 19 6 5 on 50/39/85 shooting in the Finals, shot above 60% in 3 games of that series and led the Spurs in Game 7 with 23 pts on 62% shooting while Duncan goes for 10/27
    Did you watch the Finals, or are you just looking at the stats?

    Manu played bad in games 4 and 5, and he tried to win game 6 by himself, even when Detroit were able to stop him. I think the voting was 6-4 (in Duncan's favour), so nobody is acting like it was a unanimous decision.

    Duncan was still protecting the paint almost single-handedly, and he was being swarmed by one of the best defensive bigs in the game in Ben Wallance and an absolute hound in Rasheed. In game 7 Duncan went to work in the 3rd quarter, then Brown started to double, which completely opened up his teammates (Popovich and Larry Brown said that's what won them the game).

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    And where is he ranked in total games played?

    It shows his durability, but honestly, he is one of the most overrated Playoff performers ever. His team has consistently been a contender for his entire career and he's never even made it to two straight Finals and has only won 4 rings while Kobe had a legit contender for maybe 9 years of his career(2000-2004, 2008-2011) and went to 7 Finals and won 5.
    Yeah, 2000-2003 Spurs were such contenders.

    Go ahead, tell me how many games they won. But I watched all of those games, and I didn't think we could win. Also, a lot of injuries plagued them:

    2000: Duncan goes down
    2001: Derek Anderson goes down (Duncan's second ****ing option. Contender my ass)
    2009: Manu goes down

    There's a difference between being a contender and being the clear favourite, which Kobe had the fortune of being from 00-04 and 09-10. What happened when Kobe's teams didn't have the most dominant big man in the league or a 20/10 guy on them? Why didn't PJAX coach the Lakers in '05? Why, in part, did Shaq leave? Why didn't the Dwight situation work out? Why did they lose to the Pistons?
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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Tim Duncan's postseason ranks:
    Top-5 in scoring
    Top-3 in rebounding
    Top-1 in blocks

    Top 3 in Win Shares

    Duncan also passed Wilt for 2nd All-Time in playoff defensive win shares last game.

    And it only took him 51 more games to do so. Duncan was nowhere near the defensive force that Chamberlain was.


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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    Did you watch the Finals, or are you just looking at the stats?

    Manu played bad in games 4 and 5, and he tried to win game 6 by himself, even when Detroit were able to stop him. I think the voting was 6-4 (in Duncan's favour), so nobody is acting like it was a unanimous decision.

    Duncan was still protecting the paint almost single-handedly, and he was being swarmed by one of the best defensive bigs in the game in Ben Wallance and an absolute hound in Rasheed. In game 7 Duncan went to work in the 3rd quarter, then Brown started to double, which completely opened up his teammates (Popovich and Larry Brown said that's what won them the game).
    This, is what they call context.

    BTW, why is ImKobe suddenly giving so much thought to Efficiency, when he just blasted me for it in the Kobe/LeBron Finals Thread?

    Biased, hypocritical little dumbass.

    Duncan's stats were bad. But only at face value. Once perspective is given, his actual production looks way different.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    Yeah, 2000-2003 Spurs were such contenders.

    Go ahead, tell me how many games they won. But I watched all of those games, and I didn't think we could win. Also, a lot of injuries plagued them:

    2000: Duncan goes down
    2001: Derek Anderson goes down (Duncan's second ****ing option. Contender my ass)
    2009: Manu goes down

    There's a difference between being a contender and being the clear favourite, which Kobe had the fortune of being from 00-04 and 09-10. What happened when Kobe's teams didn't have the most dominant big man in the league or a 20/10 guy on them? Why didn't PJAX coach the Lakers in '05? Why, in part, did Shaq leave? Why didn't the Dwight situation work out? Why did they lose to the Pistons?
    2003 manu healthy: championship run (duncan best player in the finals)
    2004 manu healthy: almost champions, just the derek fisher 0.4
    2005 manu healthy: champions again (manu best player in the finals)
    2006 manu healthy: almost champions, just the miracle dirk play
    2007 manu healthy: champions again (parker best player in the finals)
    2008 manu healthy until WCF (nice run but duncan lost vs lakers without gino at 100%))
    2009 manu out of the playoffs (duncan lost 1st round)
    2010 manu nose injured after beating the mavs (duncan lost in round 2)
    2011 manu injured vs grizzles (duncan lost 1st round, 12pts per game)
    2012 manu healthy (another run, WCF, manu best player vs OKC)
    2013 manu healthy (another run, finalist only because of ray allen shot, manu played bad that game 6...yes...but not games 5 and 7)
    2014 manu healthy...at least WCF again, he carried duncan in round 1 vs dallas...parker in round 2 vs blazers.


    Conclusion: Duncan depends on himself....

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    And where is he ranked in total games played?

    It shows his durability, but honestly, he is one of the most overrated Playoff performers ever. His team has consistently been a contender for his entire career and he's never even made it to two straight Finals and has only won 4 rings while Kobe had a legit contender for maybe 9 years of his career(2000-2004, 2008-2011) and went to 7 Finals and won 5.
    Definitely a level playing field when you have Kobe being carried by prime Shaq(top ten HOF big) while Duncan's next best player was Derek Anderson and 40 yr old DRob in the early 2000s.
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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by robert_shaww
    or ginobili or parker always to the rescue...
    6-24 in a game 7, carried by Gasol and Artest for the win
    carried by Shaq for three rings.
    won the majority of championships as a sidekick

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by robert_shaww
    2003 manu healthy: championship run (duncan best player in the finals)
    2004 manu healthy: almost champions, just the derek fisher 0.4
    2005 manu healthy: champions again (manu best player in the finals)
    2006 manu healthy: almost champions, just the miracle dirk play
    2007 manu healthy: champions again (parker best player in the finals)
    2008 manu healthy until WCF (nice run but duncan lost vs lakers without gino at 100%))
    2009 manu out of the playoffs (duncan lost 1st round)
    2010 manu nose injured after beating the mavs (duncan lost in round 2)
    2011 manu injured vs grizzles (duncan lost 1st round, 12pts per game)
    2012 manu healthy (another run, WCF, manu best player vs OKC)
    2013 manu healthy (another run, finalist only because of ray allen shot, manu played bad that game 6...yes...but not games 5 and 7)
    2014 manu healthy...at least WCF again, he carried duncan in round 1 vs dallas...parker in round 2 vs blazers.


    Conclusion: Duncan depends on himself....
    You see, this is your agenda again. Just admit it:

    2006: almost champions, just the bonehead mistake from Manu

    And that doesn't seem like a bad list at all. The only Playoff run Duncan really disappointed in was 2011. Duncan is still leading this team in Playoff PER, at 38, yet he's being carried.

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    Default Re: Tim Duncan Post-season Ranks

    Quote Originally Posted by Artillery
    6-24 in a game 7, carried by Gasol and Artest for the win
    carried by Shaq for three rings.
    won the majority of championships as a sidekick
    majority my ass

    kobe carried shaq in 2000 WCF, and played great in 2001 and 2002..same level.

    then won without him in 2009 and 2010.

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