Prime Iverson> Prime Kobe

[baller562]

[QUOTE=MiamiThrice]From 1996-2004 the Lakers were
With Shaq and Kobe:261-101 (.721)
With Shaq, noKobe: 32-10 (.762)
With Kobe, no Shaq: 23-25 (.479)
With none: 2-6 (.250)

Here are the championship years exclusively
99-00
Shaq, but no Kobe: 15-3 (.833)
Kobe, but no Shaq: 1-1 (.500)
Both of them: 51-10 (.836)

2001:
Shaq, but no Kobe: 11-3 (.786)
Kobe,but no Shaq: 5-3 (.625)
Both of them: 40-20 (.667)

2002:
Shaq, but no Kobe: 2-0 (1.000)
Kobe,but no Shaq: 7-8 (.467)
Both of them: 49-16 (.754)
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[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Lol thats because the lakers had decent shooting guard rotation. Kobe out they can do patchwork with brian shaw, kareem rush, devean george etc.. That can suffice for awhile but over a long season they would eventually land as a 6 or 7 seed.

Who was backing up Shaq though???? Mark Madsen, Medvedenko and Samaki Walker. Im no rocket scientist but it sounds like playing behind kobe was some solid role players while playing behind Shaq was the worst centers in the league

Not to mention the team was built around Shaq. If the main cog is gone then of course the engine will suffer.

Wait, I just read dude's post. Did he say the Lakers performed better when Kobe was out? They won 3 freaking titles WITH Kobe in!

[chains5000]

Iverson was not a defensively liability in his prime. Cut that nonsense out. Making up stuff.

Maybe not, but Snow was there to cover SGs too. You don't need that with Kobe.

[crisoner]

[Poetry]

It's very likely Iverson could have won playing beside Shaq (although you can say that about any number of top players).

You can see that when an older Iverson was paired with Melo, no longer making him the primary focus of opposing defenses, he put up great numbers on solid percentages.

One could only imagine how much better a younger AI would have been playing alongside Shaq.

That said, you have to give the edge to Kobe.

Like a lot of the 90's players, AI's historic ranking will suffer because he was denied a ring.

[GOBB]

Prime AI easily wins a ring with Shaq. Also the duo would have lasted longer than Kobe/Shaq because AI respected him a ton. Whereas Kobe was out for self to prove he was Batman not Robin.

Lots of elite players could have won with Shaq at that position. Tmac, Vince, Ray Allen.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

why is every positive kobe thread deleted and every anti-kobe thread left up


fu*ck ISH for letting these idiots run the forum

i think ive had my 2,000th post 30 times already because of jealous kobe hater mods

It does seem that the Kobe bashing threads are left alone while the pro-Kobe stuff magically disappears.

[D.J.]

Iverson was not a defensively liability in his prime. Cut that nonsense out. Making up stuff.

He may not have been a liability, but he gambled A LOT.

[GOBB]

He may not have been a liability, but he gambled A LOT.

And he was one of the best to do it too. With Shaq behind you? You can afford your perimeter defenders to play more aggressively than they normally would.

[Dictator]

This ish is getting old. Every day we either have a thread about Lebron sucking or Kobe sucking. Everyone stfu.

[eliteballer]

2008. Kobe vs AI. Equal talent to play with. AI gets swept by Kobe in the first round

[kurple]

i agree

[kurple]

2008. Kobe vs AI. Equal talent to play with. AI gets swept by Kobe in the first round

[Smoke117]

I can't stand all the idiot Kobe stans on here, but Iverson is the most overrated player in the existence of the league and even I find this ridiculous.

[kurple]

how can anyone call iverson overrated? :S