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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Too many to choose from. More than 10 deserve to be in the basketball Hall of Fame. So I look forward to voting again for those that miss the cut this time around.

    I will vote for the following players:

    George Mikan - Obvious.

    Joe Fulks - Easily one of the 100 greatest players in NBA history in my opinion. Other than Wilt Chamberlain, no other player has had such a big margin over the rest of the players in the league in terms of scoring ability. And he was good enough to lead his team to a championship. Totally underrated.

    Maurice Stokes - Outstanding college player. Along with the Big O, Bird and LeBron, he is the best all-around player in basketball history, in my opinion.

    Bob Davies - Another hugely underrated NBA star. A pioneer on a par with Cousy.

    Hank Luisetti - Pioneer of the jump shot, basketball's first matinee idol, revolutionised the game with his shooting and dribbling. The Pete Maravich or Bob Cousy of his era.

    Nat Holman - Pioneer and all-around star. I rate him as the Original Celtics' best player, from what I've read.

    Leroy 'Cowboy' Edwards - Dominant NBL player who is overlooked today.

    Bobby McDermott - See above. Outstanding shooter.

    Ed Macauley - A forgotten star of the NBA. Didn't put up the numbers that Neil Johnston did, but was more highly regarded at the time.

    Goose Tatum - Greatest Globetrotter, just edging out Marques Haynes and Tarzan Cooper.

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    I don't have the time (or knowledge really) to commit to a project of this scope, but I'll certainly follow along.

    Just wondering why you left Kurland off the initial list? Is election supposed to be strictly on the basis of professional careers? Bob was a dominant player in college/Olympics/AAU play.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    I don't have the time (or knowledge really) to commit to a project of this scope, but I'll certainly follow along.

    Just wondering why you left Kurland off the initial list? Is election supposed to be strictly on the basis of professional careers? Bob was a dominant player in college/Olympics/AAU play.
    I mentioned him along with Spivey.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
    I mentioned him along with Spivey.
    Yeah, just saw that (should've skimmed the thread first). Good nominations.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Not considering college careers here only because this is an NBA forum and I'm not sure if everyone has the same level of interest in college basketball.

    I do think that Olympic basketball as well as AAU (competitively equal to pro ball in many instances pre-NBA) is work considering and thus I will add Luisetti to the candidates.

    Anyone who would like to edit their votes may do so based on the new nominees.

    Also I have decided to keep this open for one more day and then go to the next thread. For each Class forward I will allow 72 hours as minimum, more if needed or if worthy conversation/debate/discussion warrants.
    Last edited by G.O.A.T; 08-13-2014 at 05:28 PM.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Okay, I vote for:

    Hank Luisetti
    Jumpin Joe Fulks
    George Mikan
    Maurice Stokes
    Ed Macauley
    Neil Johnston
    Bobby McDermott
    Goose Tatum
    Nat Holman
    Marcus Haynes


    Damn so tough to do. I feel like I'm leaving out so many that impacted the game so much.

    EDIT: Changed Tarzan Cooper for Hank Luisetti.
    Last edited by MP.Trey; 08-13-2014 at 10:22 PM.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Presumably lots of you have seen this before:

    ASSOCIATED PRESS' GREATEST PLAYER OF THE LAST
    50 YEARS [1950]

    C George Mikan 1946-1950 139 votes
    F Hank Luisetti --------- 123
    F Nat Holman 1922-1930 31
    F Chuck Hyatt --------- 16
    C Alex Groza 1949-1950 13
    F Joe Fulks 1946-1950 7
    F Red Debernardi --------- 7
    C Joe Lapchick 1920-1930 6
    G Dutch Dehnert 1922-1932 6
    C Bob Kurland --------- 4
    Jack McCracken --------- 3
    G Bobby McDermott 1934-1950 2
    G Johnny Wooden 1932-1939 2
    Pete Barry - 1
    G Ralph Beard 1949-1950 1
    Lew Beck --------- 1
    F Vince Boryla 1949-1950 1
    C Leroy Edwards 1935-1949 1
    F Joseph Fogarty 1904-1912 1
    G Bruce Hale 1947-1950 1
    C Bob Harris 1949-1950 1
    G Nat Hickey 1925-1947 1
    F Wah Wah Jones 1949-1950 1
    G Andy Phillip 1947-1950 1
    C Ed Wachter 1896-1924 1

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by MP.Trey
    Okay, I vote for:

    Tarzan Cooper
    Jumpin Joe Fulks
    George Mikan
    Maurice Stokes
    Ed Macauley
    Neil Johnston
    Bobby McDermott
    Goose Tatum
    Nat Holman
    Marcus Haynes

    Damn so tough to do. I feel like I'm leaving out so many that impacted the game so much.
    There will be later votes for contributors and pioneers of the game.

    This round is strictly for the best of the best players.

    Also remember that any player receiving multiple votes will be included in the next class of nominees.

    Voting to this point

    8 ballots cast

    (8) George Mikan
    (7) Bobby McDerrmott
    (6) "Jumpin'" Joe Fulks
    (5) Ed Macauley
    (5) Maurice Stokes
    -------------------------------
    (4) Neil Johnston
    (4) Nat Holman
    (4) Goose Tatum
    (3) Arnie Risen
    (3) Pops Gates
    (3) Cumberland Posey
    (3) Bob Davies
    (3) Charles "Tarzan" Cooper
    (2) LeRoy "Cowboy" Edwards
    (2) Harry Gallatin
    (2) Marcus Haynes
    John Issacs
    Joe Lapchick
    Max Zaslofsky
    Alex Groza
    Pollard, Jim
    Vern Mikkelsen
    Dutch Dehnert
    John Beckman
    Phillip, Andy
    Hank Luisetti
    Last edited by G.O.A.T; 08-13-2014 at 07:59 PM.

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    I admit I don't feel qualified to really vote for anyone I didn't watch play live, and that is before 1990. I recall a few games in 1986, but that was bits and snatches of some amazing plays.

    Even though I've read many books, spoken with people who lived "back in the day," and watched many classic games on NBA TV and ESPN, and on Youtube, it's not the same. So I won't have much confidence in any of my picks until 1990.

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    Default Re: ISH Hall of Fame Project: Class of 1960 Voting

    Anyone else who wants to vote or anyone who would like to join for this or the next round, please do so before 6pm et today.

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