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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Golden State's three best defenders: Draymond Green(team's best defender), Andrew Bogut(team's only rim protector), and Andre Iguodala(prior year's FMVP) were all out of commission due to injury or suspension under dubious circumstances. The team that LeBron beat in the Finals does not accurately represent the record setting team that won 73 games during the regular season.

    Coincidentally, LeBron was only able to score in volume and efficiency in the last 3 games, when GS were missing their 3 best defensive players.

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Oh I see

    So he isnt capable of winning the Finals while averaging 10-20 points more than his 2nd option on good efficiency like jordan always did?

    Interesting.. and wow - indeed, the stats back that up
    Jordan was able to concentrate on offense while his All-NBA Defense 2nd option teammate guarded the opposing teams best player.

    See the 1991 Finals for example:

    At first, Head Coach Phil Jackson designated Jordan to guard Johnson, with relief help from Pippen.

    "It's tough to guard Magic and then go down and be expected to carry the load offensively," Jordan said following the series opener. "It's a challenge, but I have to do it."
    However, things changed in Game 2 when the Bulls discovered a new defensive stopper. Pippen switched over onto Johnson after Jordan picked up his second personal foul in the first quarter and did an outstanding job on the Lakers' star, pestering him into 4-for-13 shooting.

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Golden State's three best defenders: Draymond Green(team's best defender), Andrew Bogut(team's only rim protector), and Andre Iguodala(prior year's FMVP) were all out of commission due to injury or suspension under dubious circumstances. The team that LeBron beat in the Finals does not accurately represent the record setting team that won 73 games during the regular season.

    Coincidentally, LeBron was only able to score in volume and efficiency in the last 3 games, when GS were missing their 3 best defensive players.
    Yep, the duo Lebron and Thompson were so physical just punishing Bogut and Iggy all series and they just couldn't stay healthy. Not to mention Curry is always hurt and Draymond was so dumb acquiring 7 techs

    Hopefully next year they'll train to stay healthy and not fight for seasonal records

    good point, is there a rep button?

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirBonner
    But HE DID win get the hell over it. Jordan is the king of stat padding. Don't even bring that up
    LOL, so salty. Just because LeBron* is the greatest finals loser of all time doesn't mean you gotta cry all the time.

    Shut the fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k up, get over it and grow a pair.

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamil
    LOL, so salty. Just because LeBron* is the greatest finals loser of all time doesn't mean you gotta cry all the time.

    Shut the fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]k up, get over it and grow a pair.
    no offense but you look the one mad typing "shut the eff up" maing

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    What were LeBron's shooting %'s in the first 4 games before DrayGod got suspended and Iggy and Bogut got hurt? Honest question.

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    What were LeBron's shooting %'s in the first 4 games before DrayGod got suspended and Iggy and Bogut got hurt? Honest question.

    Games 1-4

    53 TS
    103 ORTG

    Games 5-7

    59 TS
    126 ORTG

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Games 1-4

    53 TS
    103 ORTG

    Games 5-7

    59 TS
    126 ORTG
    good stuff

    Lebron is a beast either way

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Kyrie and love were hurt in game 7

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    y is op obsessed with lebron

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    His 2nd optio wasn't delly

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    [QUOTE=Hey Yo]Jordan was able to concentrate on offense while his All-NBA Defense 2nd option teammate guarded the opposing teams best player.

    See the 1991 Finals for example:

    At first, Head Coach Phil Jackson designated Jordan to guard Johnson, with relief help from Pippen.

    [I]

    However, things changed in Game 2 when the Bulls discovered a new defensive stopper. Pippen switched over onto Johnson after Jordan picked up his second personal foul in the first quarter and did an outstanding job on the Lakers' star, pestering him into 4-for-13 shooting.



    The Bulls dropped the opening game in Chicago, (with MJ guarding Magic) but wouldn

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    3ball avoiding this for obvious reasons.

    completely ruined
    No need to address it because it's common knowledge and observable fact that Jordan guarded magic for 14 if 20 quarters (70%) to pippen' s 6 of 20 quarters (30%).

    Specifically, pippen didnt guard magic at all in games 1 and 5, and only guarded him for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters of game 2, the 2nd and 3rd quarters of game 3, and the last 4 minutes of game 4 - that's 6 of 20 quarters (30%), compared to 14 of 20 for mj (and also the entire game 3 OT)

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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Obviously Horace saw it differently

    If I had a vote in that first championship for MVP it would have been Scottie. He brought his whole game and everyone could see. The way he played Magic and made him turn and turn and turn and made him work like that was the difference, especially after we lost the first game."
    --Horace Grant




    Guarding Magic for only 6 of a 20 quarters (allegedly) doesn't warrant the quote above.
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    Default Re: Why did Lebron shoot so much better in this year's finals than last year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Obviously Horace saw it differently


    --Horace Grant




    Guarding Magic for only 6 of a 20 quarters (allegedly) doesn't warrant the quote above.
    1991 was Michael's greatest finals, easily.. so you should know that horace was throwing Scottie a bone for the casual fan.

    Pippen only guarded magic for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters of game 2, the 2nd and 3rd quarters of game 3, and the last 4 minutes of game 4 - that's less than 6 quarters

    Jordan held magic down the remaining 14 of 20 quarters - this is observable fact and also common knowledge.
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