Start a franchise. Westbrook or Irving?

[r15mohd]

Although a bit of a chucker, I'll take Westbrook...he's proven

[tikay0]

The only thing Westbrook has over Irving is defense and speed. Otherwise I'm taking Kyrie.

The only thing Mayweather has over every other fighter is defense and speed.

[tpols]

The only thing Westbrook has over Irving is defense and speed. Otherwise I'm taking Kyrie.

And..

Heart/Competitiveness(very underrated, partially offset by the stupidity it can bring out in WB)
Durability
Slashing Ability


If you look at both of them Kyrie is more talented offensively but not as durable and barely more productive. WB is miles and miles ahead on defense and is more well rounded and established.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Also Westbrook just straight up scares other guards when he plays them. He almost destroyed Lins career in 1 playoff game.

[IGOTGAME]

I don't think it is close. Curry is a borderline all star imo. He will make it some years and miss it others. But a guy like Westbrook is a borderline top 5 player in the world.

[tikay0]

Also Westbrook just straight up scares other guards when he plays them. He almost destroyed Lins career in 1 playoff game.

Pretty much this. He turns entire defenses into mush. He has the luxury of being able to be at the rim in less than 5 seconds.

Kyrie pounds the ball a lot of the time. Westbrook initiates offense within seconds, and doesn't give you time to think.

[SpurrDurr]

The one who'd ask for less money

[SilkkTheShocker]

game 5--> game 7

Want to argue semantics lol.. 3 wins from being world champs. And hes too stupid to be a key piece? He was their best player in the Finals, the only one to dominate his matchup and make a splash.

Go sit in the corner.

I suggest you learn how to actually count before you start talking tough, son. Last time you told someone to go sit down you ended up looking like a damn fool. Remember when you said the same about LeBron during game 6?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Pretty much this. He turns entire defenses into mush. He has the luxury of being able to be at the rim in less than 5 seconds.

Kyrie pounds the ball a lot of the time. Westbrook initiates offense within seconds, and doesn't give you time to think.

Thats not true at all. He played off the ball a ton last season.

[Johnny Jones]

[tikay0]

Thats not true at all. He played off the ball a ton last season.

Only times I've ever watched him play, he's usually dribbling out the shot clock with his fancy moves.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Kyrie. Even if he hasn't been consistently healthy, his bball IQ is a helluva lot higher than Westbrook's. And he actually passes once in a while.

[Shade8780]

I don't think it is close. Curry is a borderline all star imo. He will make it some years and miss it others. But a guy like Westbrook is a borderline top 5 player in the world.

Curry?

[SilkkTheShocker]

I don't think some of you actually watch Irving. His slashing ability is extremely underrated.

[KG215]

Kyrie. Even if he hasn't been consistently healthy, his bball IQ is a helluva lot higher than Westbrook's. And he actually passes once in a while.

2012-2013 Season:

Kyrie Irving: 5.9 APG, 32.7% AST%
Westbrook: 7.4 APG, 38.4% AST%