How many series did Jordan win as underdog?

[LeCola]

Oh, so he's like Curry then since he's never been an underdog

Curry = Jordan

Got it...

Or do you finally get what we're saying?

Labradors are dogs, right? Does it mean all dogs are labradors?

When GOAT plays in Finals, it makes his team top dog. It does not mean leader of a regular top dog team is GOAT.

I used "existance of GOAT in Finals" as a cause, but you used it as a result. There is no relation between what i am saying and what you are. It is like Labradors-Dogs...

Also with your logic possible GOAT candidates are Lebron, Dirk and Billups.

[And1AllDay]

I think the very small and simple point you cannot seem to grasp is that Curry and Jordan were always on the stacked team. Can we penalize for them that? No.

But it is a matter of fact that they always were on the Stacked team. They were supposed to win.

Body bag

[LAmbruh]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.



So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.

[3ball]

[COLOR="Navy"]MJ never won as an underdog[/COLOR]

2007 CLE:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 [COLOR="White"]t[/COLOR]DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]n[/COLOR]#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed

MJ had the bigger upset

[COLOR="Navy"]So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? [/COLOR]Save your breath Jordan stan.

Cavs won 57 games in 1989 with the #1 SRS, and everyone picked them to win:

There were 3 reporters travelling with the team and each of us picked the Cavs to win the series. MJ looks at the first reporter who predicted a sweep and said "we took care of you already".. then he looks at the 2nd reporter and says "we took care of you".. and he looks at me and says "tonight, we take care of you"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZH4nICAE4&t=17m23s

Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah [COLOR="DarkRed"]until their teams got old[/COLOR]

Isiah/Dumars/Rodman were only 29/27/28 when MJ beat them in 91'

KG/Pierce/Allen were 35/34/36 when lebron beat them in 12'

Duncan/Manu/Parker were 36/35/31 when lebron beat them in 13'


But carry on being wrong - your post was long and there's many more errors to correct

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. [COLOR="Navy"]No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), [/COLOR]

Stockton/Malone both rank ahead of Pippen - Stockton had 12 MVP award shares to Pippen's 5, and Malone was the MVP twice

Also - all-nba Worthy was ranked ahead of pippen in 91'

Schrempf, Payton, Kemp, and Hersey Hawkins all severely outplayed Pippen in 96' Finals

96' Penny > Pippen


Just to name a few

[COLOR="Navy"]Rodman[/COLOR](the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Not in 1997 or 1998, when the 36 year-old averaged 4/8 for the entire 97' playoffs, and wasn't even the starter in the 98' playoffs (MJ won the 98' ring with kukoc at PF and hobbled Pippen)

And Horace Grant was a 12/9 role player and simple play-finisher/dunker - made one 2nd team defense alongside MJ.. a role player that every team has.. a 1-time all-star versus Bosh's 11 all-star games

The greatest coach of all-time([COLOR="DarkRed"]Phil Jackson[/COLOR] 11 rings in 20 seasons)

MJ was the goat candidate in 1990, not Phil

Phil was a 1st time, nobody coach and was still nobody when MJ won with him in 91'...

so don't overrate Phil - Phil simply coached the best talent ever (3 top 10 players - the most of any coach)

And nothing changed when Phil took over in 1990 - he lost the ECF just like Collins lost in 1989... The real difference was that Pippen went from doormat to all-star...

indeed, the one-time Jeanie fling and current Knicks' nightmare simply had great timing, not the Midas touch.. he joined goat players as they were literally peaking.. the triangle failed many times and only worked with top 10 players
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[SpaceJam2]

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