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Old 06-08-2013, 12:46 PM   #16
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Default Re: Bargnani To Be Traded or Amnestied By July 1st

Ok simplified and without Toronto having to take AMARE


Suns get- shumpert, Tyson chandler, 2 Tor 2nds

Knicks get- Bargnani, frye, Beasley, s brown, pick 5

Raptors get- gortat, Kendall Marshall


You have to like Bargnani and 2 future 2nds for gortat and Marshall right?
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:34 PM   #17
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Default Re: Bargnani To Be Traded or Amnestied By July 1st

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Ok simplified and without Toronto having to take AMARE


Suns get- shumpert, Tyson chandler, 2 Tor 2nds

Knicks get- Bargnani, frye, Beasley, s brown, pick 5

Raptors get- gortat, Kendall Marshall


You have to like Bargnani and 2 future 2nds for gortat and Marshall right?

Not a terrible deal for Toronto, but the Knicks get raped in this trade. Losing Chandler and replacing what he brings with Bargnani and Frye is something no sane GM would ever do. Matching those two up with Amare just makes the situation so much worse. Top 5 pick wouldn't be terrible but it's in a weak draft. NYK are in "win now" mode; high draft picks in a weak draft are not what they're in the market for.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:34 PM   #18
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Not a terrible deal for Toronto, but the Knicks get raped in this trade. Losing Chandler and replacing what he brings with Bargnani and Frye is something no sane GM would ever do. Matching those two up with Amare just makes the situation so much worse. Top 5 pick wouldn't be terrible but it's in a weak draft. NYK are in "win now" mode; high draft picks in a weak draft are not what they're in the market for.
I think pretty highly of the pick for olynyk, Len, Adams, or Zeller and none of which is planned around amare. Bargnani is such a perfect fit next to Carmelo and I think the combination of olynyk, Bargnani, and frye more than makes up for chandler.

It's win now but also clear that the roster now can't win. 1 step back to take 2 steps forward.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:59 AM   #19
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I think pretty highly of the pick for olynyk, Len, Adams, or Zeller and none of which is planned around amare. Bargnani is such a perfect fit next to Carmelo and I think the combination of olynyk, Bargnani, and frye more than makes up for chandler.

It's win now but also clear that the roster now can't win. 1 step back to take 2 steps forward.

Frye and Bargnani are the same player. Chandler is a defensive centre.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:47 AM   #20
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Frye and Bargnani are the same player. Chandler is a defensive centre.

Just don't bother, man. He's fixed in his ways.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:36 AM   #21
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Not a terrible deal for Toronto, but the Knicks get raped in this trade. Losing Chandler and replacing what he brings with Bargnani and Frye is something no sane GM would ever do. Matching those two up with Amare just makes the situation so much worse. Top 5 pick wouldn't be terrible but it's in a weak draft. NYK are in "win now" mode; high draft picks in a weak draft are not what they're in the market for.

As much as I would like to see the Knicks get juiced....

The Knicks are simply looking to loose Amare and any trades they make is likely to (1) aquire a PG and (2) shed Amare and his contract for cap relief.

To Chamberlains post - not what they are in the market for.

Knicks would love Gorat tho... look for that type of deal...where Amare goes back to the Suns (??)
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