When Is Durant Going to Come Through?

[russwest0]

CP3 would not make OKC's current bigs look any better than what Westbrook does.

Porkins ****s up so many easy baskets that KD and Russ give to him and Ibaka's improvement on the offensive end was nice but as soon as Westbrook went down he became hot garbage

[RRR3]

are we going to start holding Durant to standards no one could possibly meet now too?

[Element]

Haha you guys talking about numbers to prop up KD are funny

Memphis did not double team the dude once. They COMPLETELY took his teammates out of their game and basically gave him the treatment LeBron was given by the Magic in 09. Look up his teammates efficiency numbers before/after Westbrook. Everyone knows KD won't score 40ppg for a series/be a creator for his team, so they let him have whatever he wanted.

This postseason basically showed that while KD is an amazing and efficient scorer, his scoring is just "there" it doesn't have the kind of impact that opens up the game for everyone, which is why OKC only works when both KD and Russ are dominating. He can't be the primary ball handler on a team because he's too turnover prone and the assists he gets are low-quality ones, where he just passes and a teammate is forced to take whatever kind of shot he gave him; he needs to work on getting them open looks and improving ball movement as the primary ball handler. With Westy in the game he can do his off-ball thing/occassional iso while Russ is creating the looks, and he is part of a 1a/1b offense.

He ain't no prime Kobe, Wade, LeBron or T-Mac...yet. Right now he's most effective as a primarily off-ball point machine who rebounds well, and draws a lot of dubious foul shots. Not a guy who can do everything for his team
effectively, without making his teammates worse (though LeBron does this sometimes to non-shooters on his teams).

[SilkkTheShocker]

Chazzy and some other posters need to learn how to read. I just think it's hilarious how people assume he will win MVPs and championships.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

And it is also dumb to say he is only 24. First off, he turns 25 in September. And next year will be his 7th year in the league.

[dh144498]

Jeff keeps banning you, but why are you never permabanned?

this.

[SilkkTheShocker]

And it is also dumb to say he is only 24. First off, he turns 25 in September. And next year will be his 7th year in the league.

This. I just don't get why we should assume he is going to win MVPs and titles.

[pegasus]

He is as good as anyone in the league. His coach and bigs are absolute trash, and WB, albeit extremely talented, is a knucklehead.

I can see him win one ring in the next few years if all elite teams remained the same for the most part, but that's it.

It sucks for him because he is good enough to win multiple championships if he had a reasonable team built around him. I'm not even talking about a super-stacked team like the one in Miami. Just a solid second option, couple of decent bigs, a few good role players that know how to shoot and play defense, and a coach who knows how to run the team. He does not have that in OKC and doesn't look like he'll get it anytime soon unless some drastic changes are made.

[imdaman99]

the team built around him is no good outside of westbrook. cmon, these 2 are gonna be the only 2 guys on the team capable of creating their own shots? wtf, there is no knock down shooters either, kevin martin? really? he has the slowest release, and lets be real, he aint any good. sefolosha is a nice defender, but he is not all world defender like we think he is. he cant do to lebron that jimmy butler can, basically implying that ibaka is no noah. and perkins, dont let me get started. this is not a well constructed team. they can beat almost anyone, but unfortunately not the heat. not with the knucklehead of a coach scott brooks. after this past season, i am done with him. he doesnt do any coaching, he counts on durant and westbrook to dominate the opposition, which they are capable of doing most nights.

oh wow durant doesnt have an mvp, how many exactly did shaq have? kobe? 1? ok than, maybe durant will win one.

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron dickriders have no shame. Blasting Durant for not winning a title at a stage in his career when LeBron (and most greats) had yet to win a title nor had yet to have a playoff run even close to as good as KD's was in 2012.

If people think this Miami team is going to continue to dominate they are delusional. Wade, Miller, Battier are all getting worse. Bosh isn't getting any better at what they actually need out of him.

The Spurs played pretty poorly and still took the Heat to 7 games. Give Gregg Popovich OKC's roster with a healthy Westbrook and the Heat get decimated in the Finals this year.

The rest of the league is going to be healthy next year and the Heat will not repeat. They had a rough time getting past the Pacers without Danny Granger... Derrick Rose and the Bulls will give them trouble as well.

Never did I say the Heat were going to be forever dominant. But they did just beat the team that had the best chance of beating them in the league. MVP ( ) Rose and the Bulls couldn't even take Miami to 6 games. Indy is legit, but they need George to improve and to re-sign West. OKC doesn't have Harden anymore. And don't be surprised if Jay-Z steers KD to a big market now that he is an agent. There is a very good chance OKC already blew their window to get a title.

[Solefade]

He is as good as anyone in the league. His coach and bigs are absolute trash, and WB, albeit extremely talented, is a knucklehead.

I can see him win one ring in the next few years if all elite teams remained the same for the most part, but that's it.

It sucks for him because he is good enough to win multiple championships if he had a reasonable team built around him. I'm not even talking about a super-stacked team like the one in Miami. Just a solid second option, couple of decent bigs, a few good role players that know how to shoot and play defense, and a coach who knows how to run the team. He does not have that in OKC and doesn't look like he'll get it anytime soon unless some drastic changes are made.

The Thunder were arguably more stacked than the Heat last year AND they were more healthy..?

[tmacattack33]

He is as good as anyone in the league. His coach and bigs are absolute trash, and WB, albeit extremely talented, is a knucklehead.

I can see him win one ring in the next few years if all elite teams remained the same for the most part, but that's it.

It sucks for him because he is good enough to win multiple championships if he had a reasonable team built around him. I'm not even talking about a super-stacked team like the one in Miami. Just a solid second option, couple of decent bigs, a few good role players that know how to shoot and play defense, and a coach who knows how to run the team. He does not have that in OKC and doesn't look like he'll get it anytime soon unless some drastic changes are made.

This post is hilarious (and sorry if you are joking, I can't tell, because usually a joke post is about two sentences long...yours was 3 paragraphs long).

Everything you just describes OKC.

Solid second option? Westbrook is a great second option. Maybe the best second option in the league depending on how you view Wade and his injury.

A few good role players that know how to shoot and play defense? ...like Sefalosha you mean?

A couple decent bigs? ...like Ibaka ? And Perkins (hey, he's better than Joel Anthony and Miami won the championship with Joel)


Wtf?

[Jacks3]

Haha you guys talking about numbers to prop up KD are funny

Memphis did not double team the dude once. They COMPLETELY took his teammates out of their game and basically gave him the treatment LeBron was given by the Magic in 09. Look up his teammates efficiency numbers before/after Westbrook. Everyone knows KD won't score 40ppg for a series/be a creator for his team, so they let him have whatever he wanted.

This postseason basically showed that while KD is an amazing and efficient scorer, his scoring is just "there" it doesn't have the kind of impact that opens up the game for everyone, which is why OKC only works when both KD and Russ are dominating. He can't be the primary ball handler on a team because he's too turnover prone and the assists he gets are low-quality ones, where he just passes and a teammate is forced to take whatever kind of shot he gave him; he needs to work on getting them open looks and improving ball movement as the primary ball handler. With Westy in the game he can do his off-ball thing/occassional iso while Russ is creating the looks, and he is part of a 1a/1b offense.

He ain't no prime Kobe, Wade, LeBron or T-Mac...yet. Right now he's most effective as a primarily off-ball point machine who rebounds well, and draws a lot of dubious foul shots. Not a guy who can do everything for his team
effectively, without making his teammates worse (though LeBron does this sometimes to non-shooters on his teams).

truth.

of all the superstar perimeter players in history, durant is by far the worst play-maker/passer/creator. its not even close.

[KG215]

The Thunder were arguably more stacked than the Heat last year AND they were more healthy..?

No, they weren't. Miami proved in the Finals they had more and they had better depth than the Thunder.

[imdaman99]

No, they weren't. Miami proved in the Finals they had more and they had better depth than the Thunder.

that guy says the stupidest things. i swear, lebron fanboys

lets hear the amount of role players that stepped up for the thunder in the finals last year : sef for game 1?

now for the heat :
battier
chalmers
mike miller
james jones with a huge 3
not to mention bosh, who lebron turned into a role player. he outplayed ibaka and perkins