Is the Finals MVP the ULTIMATE accolade?

[Im Still Ballin]

The heralded FMVP

The Holy Grail of Superstar accolades

To me, it goes in value to an individual's ranking/legacy

1. FMVP
2. MVP
3. Championship


But in the end it's never a straight mathematical analysis... Context is always taken into account

For LeBron

3 FMVPs + 4 MVPs + 3 Championships = 10 non-scaled score

Duncan

3 FMVPs + 2 MVPs + 5 Championships = 10 non-scaled score

Jordan

6 FMVPs + 5 MVPs + 6 Championships = 17 non-scaled score

Magic

3 FMVPs + 3 MVPs + 5 Championships = 11 non-scaled score

Kareem

2 FMVPs + 6 MVPs + 6 Championships = 14 non-scaled score

Shaq

3 FMVPs + 1 MVP + 4 Championships = 8 non-scaled score

Bird

2 FMVPs + 3 MVPs + 3 Championships = 8 non-scaled score

Wilt

1 FMVP + 4 MVPs + 2 Championships = 7 non-scaled score

Russell

0 FMVPs + 5 MVPs + 11 Championships = 16 non-scaled score

[Im Still Ballin]

Those who have a higher percentage of their non-scaled score coming from the individual accolades (FMVP/MVP), those people's scores would go up after proper scaling

This is where LeBron beats out guys like Shaq and Duncan... They all have 3 FMVPs which are the most valuable accolade, but LeBron ousts them in MVPs

[Lebronxrings]

MVPs and FMVPs show individual dominance. Rings are earned from great teams. I mean if we did Rings + fmvps + mvps, Robert Horry would be high ranked.

[warriorfan]

Counting accolades isn't how basketball works

[Dray n Klay]

I think simply, being the best performer in the Finals is better than using FMVP



For example, LeBron has been the best player in the Finals for 5 straight Finals, but only received FMVP 3 times.




Being the best player in the Finals is the ultimate achievement



LeBron - 5 times

Jordan - 5 times

Magic- 6 times

Bird - 4 times










Kobe- once (2009)

[Im Still Ballin]

MVPs and FMVPs show individual dominance. Rings are earned from great teams. I mean if we did Rings + fmvps + mvps, Robert Horry would be high ranked.

The scaling should be something like

FMVP = 1.5
MVP = 1.25
Ring = 1

People underrate the MVP award

[Nilocon165]

Counting accolades isn't how basketball works

Lets count votes then.

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[Im Still Ballin]

I think simply, being the best performer in the Finals is better than using FMVP



For example, LeBron has been the best player in the Finals for 5 straight Finals, but only received FMVP 3 times.




Being the best player in the Finals is the ultimate achievement



LeBron - 5 times

Jordan - 5 times

Magic- 6 times

Bird - 4 times










Kobe- once (2009)

Of course

This is a basic accolade analysis

Context is always key

It's not really an issue because by default LeBron's context factor is a lot bigger than pretty much anyone else... For years people have used straight accolade total against him, damning context... It's just funny now seeing as though you can't hold him down on an accolade total basis anymore.. It speaks top 5 on pure accolade total

[SouBeachTalents]

FMVP's weren't around during 10/11 Russell's championships, if they were he'd rank at the top of OP's list. What about adding DPOY as well?

[rmt]

FMVP's weren't around during 10/11 Russell's championships, if they were he'd rank at the top of OP's list. What about adding DPOY as well?

Well, Russell would have swept DPOY award too. And what about the shame that Duncan has never won a DPOY award?

[SouBeachTalents]

Well, Russell would have swept DPOY award too. And what about the shame that Duncan has never won a DPOY award?

Which year specifically do you think Duncan should have won DPOY?

[GrapeApe]

Regular season MVP's might be a bit more prestgious, but FMVP is arguably the more coveted award. Not only does it generally mean you've also won a title, but you were the best player in the biggest series, on the biggest stage, and against (theoretically) the toughest competition. As OP mentioned, context is obviously important as well. Iggy and Maxwell's FMVPs probably don't carry the same weight as Lebron, Jordan, Wade, Dirk, etc......

[Im Still Ballin]

That's true about Russell but he'd get hit majorly on context

With regards to era, amount of teams, talent pool, etc etc

[jlip]

Nope

[Prime_Shaq]

How about back-to-back titles and 3 peats adding more value? Its definitely harder to do.