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    Quote Originally Posted by Im so nba'd out
    dont compare him to jordan everyone falls short of jordan.
    And Wilt. We can only hope another one of those two comes around again in our lifetime.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Game Finders sorted by field goal attempts

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    How many assists that game?

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    Man... so insecure...

    Jordan sure loved to chuck em up though, thats the main difference between him & Lebron, he was efficient but thats not the point, this is the difference between those two, Lebron could be that type of a shot taker but he has a Pippen responsibility (point-forward) for his team aswell.... The last time Lebron took anywhere near 30+ shots he scored 61 points and in that game his teammates had to beg him to continue shooting.... and his career high was 36 FGA... while Michael Jordan regularly dropped that FGA and much more (no matter how bad he shot), especially in playoffs / finals... MJ was awesome, dominant and efficient... but compared to Lebron he was much more selfish, more comparable offensive mindset to Kobe.... Lebron is more closer to Magic (not entirely, but more closer)....
    Last edited by pauk; 07-02-2014 at 08:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Jordan sure loved to chuck em up though, thats the main difference between him & Lebron. The last time Lebron took anywhere near 30+ shots he scored 61 points....
    Was that against the Spurs

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    LOL @ MJ only making 3mil that season.

    That's what happens when you sign an 8yr deal.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by Collie
    As if teams today use zone extensively.
    All teams play a zoned defense now, all game.

    It's not a classic 3-2 or 2-3 or 1-3-1 as such.

    It man on man, with weak side help that can stand in they key for 3 seconds, and guard space.

    It's a different challenge to Jordan's era, undeniably.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    the true stats value of a player is determined in the playoffs or esp finals and thats when you realize that the gap bet bran and jordan is huge

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    but compared to Lebron he was much more selfish, more comparable offensive mindset to Kobe.... Lebron is more closer to Magic (not entirely, but more closer)....
    And Magic is sitting there around 5 or 6 with Bird on the all-time list.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by livinglegend
    weak era, and
    1-9 is worse than 2-5


    next
    can u explain 2011 finals or are you gonna pull a pauk, wade was a ball hogger?

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by Marchesk
    Was that against the Spurs
    How would 21 of 37 FGA for Lebron make any difference in that series? 37 FGA means more offensive possessions instead for other guys, the boxscore wouldnt change.... Spurs still win.... the only difference that would make is raise Lebrons PPG and decrease his teammates PPG dramatically.... the outcome of that series wouldnt change....
    Last edited by pauk; 07-02-2014 at 08:10 PM.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    How would 37 FGA (50+ points) for Lebron make any difference in that series? 37 FGA means more offensive possessions instead for other guys, the boxscore wouldnt change.... Spurs still win.... the only difference that would make is raise Lebrons PPG and decrease his teammates PPG dramatically much further.... the outcome of any game or series wouldnt change....
    so you're saying it's cause of lebron's unselfishness he average around 2 points a game in 2011 finals in the 4th quarter? interesting.

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    How would 37 FGA (50+ points) for Lebron make any difference in that series? 37 FGA means more offensive possessions instead for other guys, the boxscore wouldnt change.... Spurs still win.... the only difference that would make is raise Lebrons PPG and decrease his teammates PPG dramatically much further.... the outcome of any game or series wouldnt change....
    Because maybe his teammates couldn't throw the ball in the ocean? You honestly think that if Lebron goes off for 50, it wouldn't be a closer game, given the Heat a chance at stealing one of those they got blown out in? You don't think that might encourage his teammates to do something?

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Man... so insecure...

    Jordan sure loved to chuck em up though, thats the main difference between him & Lebron, he was efficient but thats not the point, this is the difference between those two, Lebron could be that type of a shot taker but he has a Pippen responsibility (point-forward) for his team aswell.... The last time Lebron took anywhere near 30+ shots he scored 61 points and in that game his teammates had to beg him to continue shooting.... and his career high was 36 FGA... while Michael Jordan regularly dropped that FGA and much more (no matter how bad he shot), especially in playoffs / finals... MJ was awesome, dominant and efficient... but compared to Lebron he was much more selfish, more comparable offensive mindset to Kobe.... Lebron is more closer to Magic (not entirely, but more closer)....
    The Bulls were freaking low on fuel the whole freaking year. Almost all the Bulls had down years except Mj. By the time they reached the finals everybody was completely out of Steen except MJ. Go read up on the 93 season of the Bulls. Mj took that many shots cause his team was playing garbage. Look at the 2 finals before. He avgered his usual 30+ with 6+ asts. Shit in one of the gms vs the Suns Mj scored almost all the 4th Q points

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    Default Re: Difference between Jordan and that guy who is 2/5

    Quote Originally Posted by G-train
    All teams play a zoned defense now, all game.
    Utter nonsense.

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