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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
not true at all
Well Lebron does make Wade, Bosh, Love and Irving worse, because Lebron's system does not work well with a ball handler or an inside scorer. Those star players have to make compromises and play a style they aint familiar or comfortable with, thereby making themselves worse.
However, Lebron's system is better fitted with rebounders and 3point shooters. There is a reason why the likes of Shane Battier, Chris Anderson, JR Smith and Tristan Thompson flourish with Lebron.
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by Kiddlovesnets
Well Lebron does make Wade, Bosh, Love and Irving worse, because Lebron's system does not work well with a ball handler or an inside scorer. Those star players have to make compromises and play a style they aint familiar or comfortable with, thereby making themselves worse.
However, Lebron's system is better fitted with rebounders and 3point shooters. There is a reason why the likes of Shane Battier, Chris Anderson, JR Smith and Tristan Thompson flourish with Lebron.
He didn't make wade, Irving or Bosh worse. Even Love is starting to play better.
THeir ppg dropped only because they weren't 1st option anymore.
They had less touches.
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Local High School Star
Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
the irony of this statement, considering what you just used to prop up lebron in your last post, is unbelievable
What?
You said Kyrie had the highest usage on the team and I replied saying that Lebron still lead the team in assists...
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by KingPush
What?
You said Kyrie had the highest usage on the team and I replied saying that Lebron still lead the team in assists...
Kobe didn't lead all of those teams in usage, just like Lebron right now, he led the team in assist, but not usage. However, according to you it's a good thing when Lebron does it, but when Kobe does it he's a ballhog
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Kobe didn't lead all of those teams in usage, just like Lebron right now, he led the team in assist, but not usage. However, according to you it's a good thing when Lebron does it, but when Kobe does it he's a ballhog
Which years did he lead and which years did he not?
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
he's playing differently. He's not trying to be the point guard nearly as much
Kyrie leads the team in usage, a nd with that they are playing the best ball they've played in two years.
So thanks for pointing out that this team is better when Kyrie has the ball in his hands more and leads the team is Usage
Cuz they played so much together in the last year's playoffs to give us a perfect sample size
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by KingPush
Which years did he lead and which years did he not?
Why would that matter? If he was leading his team in assist and not usage, then how is he a ballhog while Lebron isn't a ballhog for doing the exact same thing?
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by LBJ 23
Cuz they played so much together in the last year's playoffs to give us a perfect sample size
uhh the cavs are playing better in these past 8 games than they have at anytime in the past two years during the regular season.
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NBA Legend
Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
he's playing differently. He's not trying to be the point guard nearly as much
Kyrie leads the team in usage, and with that they are playing the best ball they've played in two years.
So thanks for pointing out that this team is better when Kyrie has the ball in his hands more and leads the team is Usage
Before today's game:
Usage%
Kyrie - 29.2
LeBron - 28.8
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2016.html
Jesus, look at that difference!!
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
uhh the cavs are playing better in these past 8 games than they have at anytime in the past two years during the regular season.
What a surprise, it's postseason when usually all players step up a notch, it's their second season together with great chemistry and finally they are all healthy in the playoffs(for now). Again, what a surprise to see them play best bball till now.
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by livinglegend
He turns everyone into spot up shooters ( I hardly see guys like Kyrie, Thompson, Delly being spot up shooters )
He dribbles the ball for 20 seconds each possession ( I don't see that happening also. Cavs are moving the ball really well ).
He steals the rebounds from his bigs ( Love and Thompson are averaging high rebounding numbers )
What's happening? ISH experts were wrong? Again?
You mean 3-ball?
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Local High School Star
Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Why would that matter? If he was leading his team in assist and not usage, then how is he a ballhog while Lebron isn't a ballhog for doing the exact same thing?
Post the years, boy.
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by KingPush
Post the years, boy.
try to explain your double standard here
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
uhh the cavs are playing better in these past 8 games than they have at anytime in the past two years during the regular season.
False once again. You dont even watch these teams so why do you even talk about them?
They looked even better when they went on 33-6 stretch after the Mozgov/shump/JR trade
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Re: I thought Lebron ball made his teammates worse.
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
yeah and how many times in Lebron's career has he played in a way which allowed another player to get that close to his usage? 2011, and that is skewed because Lebron decided to go ghost in the finals.
He's playing differently, he's putting more trust in teammates to get it done.
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