Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth

[KG5MVP]

See this is why people don`t respect Kobe Fans you OVERRATE him till a point it bothers many whom know the game way more

[COLOR="Blue"]Shaq:

Top 2 All Time Season PER (Total Individual Domination)
Top 2 All Time Play-Offs PER (Total Individual Domination)
Top 14 All Time EFF (Great-Top Skill Set Domination)
Top 10 All Time Statistical +/- (Top All Around Game Impact)

Won 4 Titles: 4 of them as THE BEST PLAYER

Just look at his Stats and Play-Offs Stats they speak for nothing more than the

*Most Efficient Inside Scorer of All Time in Active Game History

*Most Doubled and Tripled Center of All Time with Wilt[/COLOR]


[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Duncan:

Top 5 All Time Play-Off PER (Total Individual Domination)
Top 7 All Time PER Season (Total Individual Domination)
Top 18 All Time EFF (Great Skill Set Domination)
Top 18 All Time Statiscial + / - (Great All Around Game Impact)


4 Titles: 1 Of them As The 1st or 2nd Best Player, The Rest as THE BEST PLAYER

*Second Best CF of All Time: after Hakeem Olajuwon[/COLOR]


[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kevin Garnett

Top 12 Play-Off PER of All Time (Great Individual Domination)
Top 14 All Time Season PER of All Time (Great Individual Domination)
Top 18 All Time EFF Player (Great Skill Set Domination)
Top 20 All Time Statistical +/- (Great All Around Game Impact)


Won 1 Championship (fafter playing for pathetic teams All His Life, unlike the Other Players) as THE BEST PLAYER (before Kobe)

*Best All Around PF-SF of All Time

*Top 4 Pure PF of All Time

**2008-2009 Injury Reason Why He Probably Doesn`t have 2 Titles[/COLOR]

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[COLOR="Orange"]Kobe

Top 15 Play-Offf PER of All Time (Great Individidual Domination)
Top 21 Season PER of All Time (Great Individual Domination)
Top 48 EFF Player of All Time (Good Skill Set Domination)
Top 22 Statistical +/- All Time (Great All Around Game Impact)


Never Won a Title as a Best Player

*Will Win This Year with THE BEST TEAM in the NBA (different from all those other players)

*One of the of 2 or 3 of Greatest 1 on 1 Perimter Shooters of All Time[/COLOR]


[COLOR="DarkRed"]It is Quite Clear that Shaq, Duncan and Garnett are the Best Players of the Decade[/COLOR]

[KG5MVP]

[COLOR="Black"]Doesn't the best player usually win MVP?[/COLOR]

MVP = Most Valueable Player Not Best Player

Sometimes The Best Player Gets the MVP...Sometimes Not...


[COLOR="Black"]What? Since when is Garnett considered anywhere near a SF? Never.[/COLOR]

He is a Versatile Player capable of playing SF-PF and FC and did play at SF for some seasons such as Barkley from 1989-91.

[COLOR="Black"]2nd greatest shooting guard of all time (some argue West is 2nd, still)[/COLOR]

I never said Second Greatest SG I said "Second or Third 1 on 1 Shooting Skill Wise SG of All Time"

[COLOR="Black"]But has 3 championships and played a big role in getting them, and is close to winning one as the best player (something KG has never done ;-) )[/COLOR]

That is Good for Kobe is a Great Player a Top 25-30 of All Time

Garnett was the Best Player in the Celtics RUn in 2009. He wasn`t the leading Scorer or Clutch Shooter but he HAD THE OVERAL BEST IMPACT AND ALL AROUND GAME: [COLOR="blue"]YEARS ago Barkely said there are ONLY 3 SUPERSTARS IN THE LEAGUE[/COLOR]:

[COLOR="Blue"]Strange that the Stats evidence this huh? [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]You Dumb Blind Kobe Fans Think that Being the Best Player is "Being a Clutch Shooter and Volume Scorer" [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]THERE ARE MORE SKILLS AND WAYS OF IMPACT THAN HAVING A "1 ON 1 GREAT SHOOTING SILKY SMOOTH TOUCH AND FADEAWAY"..REALLY, THERE IS... REALLY...

No Wonder You Can`t Tell the Difference of Impact Between Players becaue "YOU SEE THE GAME FROM 1 POSITION (SG)" (JORDAN`S FAULT OFCOURSE)[/COLOR]...


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2008.html

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]2007-08 Boston Celtics Roster and Statistics
Franchise Index: Previous Season ▪ Next Season

Season PER:

Garnett: 25.3

Pierece: 19.6
Ray Allen: 16.4
Rondo: 15.6


Play-Offs PER:

Garnett: 23.0

Pierece: 17.4
Ray Allen: 14.9 [/COLOR]




[COLOR="Black"]?? O'reilly? KG didn't have the best team last year? (as did all the others?
[/COLOR]



He Was in One of the Deepest Teams (Today: Lakers, Celtics, Rockets, Magic, Nuggets) but not the Best Starting Lineup.

The Lakers have the Best Starting Line Up by MILES

He Was Ine One of the Best 4 Teams....

*Bryant is Quite Lucky Garnett did not play in the play-offs for the Celtics whom couldn`t get to the ECF because they had no Garnett

*So much for idiots that say Pierce is Better than Garnett when PER; EFF and All Statistical Breakdown Stats of IMPACTS Say the Contrary...The evidence at hand.


Your selective stats aside, Kobe will clearly be considered a greater player than Garnett (the only one of the 4 that was occasionally afraid to take the last possession, and the only one of the 4 that wasn't a "go-to-guy" in the 4thE quarter of the championship team[s]).

I don`t go by what the media and the fans want to determine a Great Player i go by Efficiency and Impact = Reality and that even goes BEYOND BROKEN DOWN STATS (CLOSEST TO REALITY) but by also the LEVEL OF TEAMATES this Dude Had IN HIS PRIME and THOSE PLAYERS PRIME etc..

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kevin Garnett Has Been Clearly a Superior All Around Player and Better Impact-Efficiency Player than Kobe

Better: Passer, Rebounder, Interior Defender, Exterior Defender (capable of guarding some Cs, Pfs, SFs), 1 on 1 Defender and as Good as Volume Scorer and Superior Efficiency Scorer FG%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]He is not a "Better Clutch Scorer" but that is 1 thing over the many Skill that Garnett has over Kobe [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]He simply is the BETTER PLAYER and has been.[/COLOR]

Garnetts Impact:

Defensive Rating

2003-04 NBA 91.6 (3)
2004-05 NBA 98.7 (8)
2005-06 NBA 98.2 (5)
2007-08 NBA 93.8 (1)
2008-09 NBA 97.5 (2)
Active 99.3 (7)

Player Efficiency Rating

1999-00 NBA 23.6 (7)
2000-01 NBA 23.9 (8)
2001-02 NBA 23.8 (6)
2002-03 NBA 26.4 (4)
2003-04 NBA 29.4 (1)
2004-05 NBA 28.2 (1)
2005-06 NBA 26.8 (5)
2006-07 NBA 24.2 (5)
2007-08 NBA 25.3 (4)
Active 23.8 (5)


All Kobe Fans do to measure a Player`s Level is

[COLOR="darkred"]"CLUTCH SHOOTING and NICE LOOKING 1 ON 1 SHOOTING FADEWAYS OR PURE SHOOTING"[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]That is my friend 1 or 2 of the 100s of Facetes and Skills and Forms of Impact a The Game has[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]There Really is More SKills and Ways of Impact, Really
There Really is More Positions than a SG [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]*Jordan destroyed Real NBA Fans because he DOMINATED ALL SKILLS AND IMPACTED AGAINST ALL from the SG Spot..Something that had Never Been Done, Will Never Be Done Probably and Now Stern a Desesperation (after MJ retired) to keep that MJ Spirtin Alive Trying to Force The Creation of False New Jordan at all cost: making it easier for Perimeter Players (more Marketable Game than the Inside Game ofcourse = a Lost Art In Todays Game) so that they can have a similar Impact and guess what? THEY STILL CANT!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]* Kobe ofcourse the victim of this comparission and hype but its not his fault he is a great player[/COLOR]

Just not in the level of Shaq, Duncan, Garnett and Lebron...soon Wade

he is more in the Wade-Dirk level...Wade is rising up to the other level soon

PERIOD

[The Magic Man]

1. KG did not win a title as the best player.
2. Kg couldn't do jack sh*t as the man in Minny, for that matter.
3. PER is for idiots who never even played the game.
4. You're retarded.

[The Logo]

Garnett was a perennial loser in Minny for majority of the decade. He NEEDED 2 future HOFers and a great supporting cast to finally win a ring. And he didn't even win the finals MVP.

Kobe's been to the finals 6 times in the decade. He will win the title and finals MVP this year. And all he needed was a two-time Allstar.

Kobe=third best player in this decade. Period.

[Cyclone112]

Forgot to sign back into your Sir Charles account?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

are you talking to yourself in this thread?

[shrempf_on_rice]

This is why people hate KG, highly overated by his fans because he finally got a championship, while he couldn't do jack for so long back in Minny..

[Jacks3]

Kobe wins a championship this year, and he's Top 10 All-Time without a doubt.

[KG5MVP]

i simply quoted what sir charles wrote in another post

[catch24]

"Sir Con" exposed.

[catch24]

Lol

[thuggets]

yeah keep dreaming. come back when he wins 2 more rings without the other 2 hall of famers.

[KG5MVP]

yeah keep dreaming. come back when he wins 2 more rings without the other 2 hall of famers.

come back when Kobe wins a ring without Shaq

[Jacks3]

4 rings, 6 Finals>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 ring, 1 Finals

[thuggets]

come back when Kobe wins a ring without Shaq

oh okay, it will be sometime next week.