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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
[COLOR="Black"]Doesn't the best player usually win MVP?[/COLOR]
MVP = Most Valueable Player Not Best Player
Sometimes The Best Player Gets the MVP...Sometimes Not...
[COLOR="Black"]What? Since when is Garnett considered anywhere near a SF? Never.[/COLOR]
He is a Versatile Player capable of playing SF-PF and FC and did play at SF for some seasons such as Barkley from 1989-91.
[COLOR="Black"]2nd greatest shooting guard of all time (some argue West is 2nd, still)[/COLOR]
I never said Second Greatest SG I said "Second or Third 1 on 1 Shooting Skill Wise SG of All Time"
[COLOR="Black"]But has 3 championships and played a big role in getting them, and is close to winning one as the best player (something KG has never done ;-) )[/COLOR]
That is Good for Kobe is a Great Player a Top 25-30 of All Time
Garnett was the Best Player in the Celtics RUn in 2009. He wasn`t the leading Scorer or Clutch Shooter but he HAD THE OVERAL BEST IMPACT AND ALL AROUND GAME: [COLOR="blue"]YEARS ago Barkely said there are ONLY 3 SUPERSTARS IN THE LEAGUE[/COLOR]:
[COLOR="Blue"]Strange that the Stats evidence this huh? [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]You Dumb Blind Kobe Fans Think that Being the Best Player is "Being a Clutch Shooter and Volume Scorer" [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]THERE ARE MORE SKILLS AND WAYS OF IMPACT THAN HAVING A "1 ON 1 GREAT SHOOTING SILKY SMOOTH TOUCH AND FADEAWAY"..REALLY, THERE IS... REALLY...
No Wonder You Can`t Tell the Difference of Impact Between Players becaue "YOU SEE THE GAME FROM 1 POSITION (SG)" (JORDAN`S FAULT OFCOURSE)[/COLOR]...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2008.html
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]2007-08 Boston Celtics Roster and Statistics
Franchise Index: Previous Season ▪ Next Season
Season PER:
Garnett: 25.3
Pierece: 19.6
Ray Allen: 16.4
Rondo: 15.6
Play-Offs PER:
Garnett: 23.0
Pierece: 17.4
Ray Allen: 14.9 [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Black"]?? O'reilly? KG didn't have the best team last year? (as did all the others?
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He Was in One of the Deepest Teams (Today: Lakers, Celtics, Rockets, Magic, Nuggets) but not the Best Starting Lineup.
The Lakers have the Best Starting Line Up by MILES
He Was Ine One of the Best 4 Teams....
*Bryant is Quite Lucky Garnett did not play in the play-offs for the Celtics whom couldn`t get to the ECF because they had no Garnett
*So much for idiots that say Pierce is Better than Garnett when PER; EFF and All Statistical Breakdown Stats of IMPACTS Say the Contrary...The evidence at hand.
Your selective stats aside, Kobe will clearly be considered a greater player than Garnett (the only one of the 4 that was occasionally afraid to take the last possession, and the only one of the 4 that wasn't a "go-to-guy" in the 4thE quarter of the championship team[s]).
I don`t go by what the media and the fans want to determine a Great Player i go by Efficiency and Impact = Reality and that even goes BEYOND BROKEN DOWN STATS (CLOSEST TO REALITY) but by also the LEVEL OF TEAMATES this Dude Had IN HIS PRIME and THOSE PLAYERS PRIME etc..
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Kevin Garnett Has Been Clearly a Superior All Around Player and Better Impact-Efficiency Player than Kobe
Better: Passer, Rebounder, Interior Defender, Exterior Defender (capable of guarding some Cs, Pfs, SFs), 1 on 1 Defender and as Good as Volume Scorer and Superior Efficiency Scorer FG%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]He is not a "Better Clutch Scorer" but that is 1 thing over the many Skill that Garnett has over Kobe [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]He simply is the BETTER PLAYER and has been.[/COLOR]
Garnetts Impact:
Defensive Rating
2003-04 NBA 91.6 (3)
2004-05 NBA 98.7 (8)
2005-06 NBA 98.2 (5)
2007-08 NBA 93.8 (1)
2008-09 NBA 97.5 (2)
Active 99.3 (7)
Player Efficiency Rating
1999-00 NBA 23.6 (7)
2000-01 NBA 23.9 (8)
2001-02 NBA 23.8 (6)
2002-03 NBA 26.4 (4)
2003-04 NBA 29.4 (1)
2004-05 NBA 28.2 (1)
2005-06 NBA 26.8 (5)
2006-07 NBA 24.2 (5)
2007-08 NBA 25.3 (4)
Active 23.8 (5)
All Kobe Fans do to measure a Player`s Level is
[COLOR="darkred"]"CLUTCH SHOOTING and NICE LOOKING 1 ON 1 SHOOTING FADEWAYS OR PURE SHOOTING"[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]That is my friend 1 or 2 of the 100s of Facetes and Skills and Forms of Impact a The Game has[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]There Really is More SKills and Ways of Impact, Really
There Really is More Positions than a SG [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]*Jordan destroyed Real NBA Fans because he DOMINATED ALL SKILLS AND IMPACTED AGAINST ALL from the SG Spot..Something that had Never Been Done, Will Never Be Done Probably and Now Stern a Desesperation (after MJ retired) to keep that MJ Spirtin Alive Trying to Force The Creation of False New Jordan at all cost: making it easier for Perimeter Players (more Marketable Game than the Inside Game ofcourse = a Lost Art In Todays Game) so that they can have a similar Impact and guess what? THEY STILL CANT!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]* Kobe ofcourse the victim of this comparission and hype but its not his fault he is a great player[/COLOR]
Just not in the level of Shaq, Duncan, Garnett and Lebron...soon Wade
he is more in the Wade-Dirk level...Wade is rising up to the other level soon
PERIOD
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Gots Ta Be Li Showtam!
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
1. KG did not win a title as the best player.
2. Kg couldn't do jack sh*t as the man in Minny, for that matter.
3. PER is for idiots who never even played the game.
4. You're retarded.
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
Garnett was a perennial loser in Minny for majority of the decade. He NEEDED 2 future HOFers and a great supporting cast to finally win a ring. And he didn't even win the finals MVP.
Kobe's been to the finals 6 times in the decade. He will win the title and finals MVP this year. And all he needed was a two-time Allstar.
Kobe=third best player in this decade. Period.
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
Forgot to sign back into your Sir Charles account?
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Another Laker Dynasty?
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
are you talking to yourself in this thread?
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I'm so pretty
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
This is why people hate KG, highly overated by his fans because he finally got a championship, while he couldn't do jack for so long back in Minny..
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
Kobe wins a championship this year, and he's Top 10 All-Time without a doubt.
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
i simply quoted what sir charles wrote in another post
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phal5
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
"Sir Con" exposed.
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phal5
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
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thuggets
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
yeah keep dreaming. come back when he wins 2 more rings without the other 2 hall of famers.
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
Originally Posted by thuggets
yeah keep dreaming. come back when he wins 2 more rings without the other 2 hall of famers.
come back when Kobe wins a ring without Shaq
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Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
4 rings, 6 Finals>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 ring, 1 Finals
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thuggets
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Sorry, but KG is the third best this decade, Kobe fourth
Originally Posted by KG5MVP
come back when Kobe wins a ring without Shaq
oh okay, it will be sometime next week.
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