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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by DaHeezy
Why couldn't MJ elevate Woolridge who was just as talented as Pippen? If MJ was the creator that everyone claims he is he already had a Pippen mold in Woolridge who was better offensively
Can anyone answer this 3ball? LostCause?Phoenix?
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RENT FREE
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Why couldn't Tranny98 go outside last summer?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
He didn't know how to gather-step
That's one thing Pippen entered the league with - a very basic ability to dribble without looking like he's going to lose it, and also the proper footwork prior to take off (gather-step ability)
Guys like Sellers and Kwame never had it - they dribbled like people just learning how to dribble - like, you gotta have SOMETHING for Jordan to work with.. he isn't a junior high level instructor that teaches basic stuff like one foot in front of the other-type shit
Like, Kwame couldn't even become Jeff Green, who is a 15-17 ppg player in his best years - whereas Pippen would've developed into Jeff Green without MJ - I guess you need Jeff Green capability on your own, and then MJ can elevate you to all-time great and 6x champion HOF... ...
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Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by 3ball
He didn't know how to gather-step
That's one thing Pippen entered the league with - a very basic ability to dribble without looking like he's going to lose it, and also the proper footwork prior to take off (gather-step ability)
Guys like Sellers and Kwame never had it - they dribbled like people just learning how to dribble - like, you gotta have SOMETHING for Jordan to work with.. he isn't a junior high level instructor that teaches basic stuff like one foot in front of the other-type shit
Like, Kwame couldn't even become Jeff Green, who is a 15-17 ppg player in his best years - whereas Pippen would've developed into Jeff Green without MJ - I guess you need Jeff Green capability on your own, and then MJ can elevate you to all-time great and 6x champion HOF... ...
oh plz every NBA player knows how to gather step...
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Is it the shoes?
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Pippen accepted his role wisely and acknowledged Jordan's superiority and was willing to learn.
Kwame thought he was going to bigger and better than Jordan and talked smack to him instead of learning, so Jordan proceeded to destroy him.
Massively overhyped
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New York baby!!
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by brutalBBQ
Pippen accepted his role wisely and acknowledged Jordan's superiority and was willing to learn.
Kwame thought he was going to bigger and better than Jordan and talked smack to him instead of learning, so Jordan proceeded to destroy him.
Massively overhyped
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by 3ball
He didn't know how to gather-step
That's one thing Pippen entered the league with - a very basic ability to dribble without looking like he's going to lose it, and also the proper footwork prior to take off (gather-step ability)
Guys like Sellers and Kwame never had it - they dribbled like people just learning how to dribble - like, you gotta have SOMETHING for Jordan to work with.. he isn't a junior high level instructor that teaches basic stuff like one foot in front of the other-type shit
Like, Kwame couldn't even become Jeff Green, who is a 15-17 ppg player in his best years - whereas Pippen would've developed into Jeff Green without MJ - I guess you need Jeff Green capability on your own, and then MJ can elevate you to all-time great and 6x champion HOF... ...
But he was the number 1 pick in the draft who MJ handpicked himself so why couldn't he elevate him to his number 1 pick potential why was he such a bust
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by brutalBBQ
Pippen accepted his role wisely and acknowledged Jordan's superiority and was willing to learn.
Kwame thought he was going to bigger and better than Jordan and talked smack to him instead of learning, so Jordan proceeded to destroy him.
Massively overhyped
Literally making shit up
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
oh plz every NBA player knows how to gather step...
I promise that you don't know what a gather-step is
You've simply heard the term and know it's a common term, so you assume "everyone" can do it .. most can... Kwame couldn't..
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Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by 3ball
I promise that you don't know what a gather-step is
Means 2 and a half steps.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
Means 2 and a half steps.
If you can't personally teach someone else to do it, then you don't know what it is
And I suspect that you can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, so no .
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
No because I acknowledge that MJ had no eye for talent
He should've been able to see that the often, stutter-stepping, herky-jerky Kwame had no footwork.... And if players don't have footwork by the time they're 20, they almost never develop it.. they are who they are
So no, MJ isn't a good talent evaluator and Kwame was a big error... But regarding the original point - MJ couldn't develop kwame because he was all athlete without even a modicum of actual skill... Kwame dribbled like someone just learning how to dribble - like, you gotta have SOMETHING for Jordan to work with.. he isn't a junior high level instructor that teaches basic stuff like one foot in front of the other-type shit
Ultimately, Kwame couldn't even become Jeff Green, who is a 15-17 ppg player in his best years - whereas Pippen would've developed into Jeff Green without MJ - I guess you need Jeff Green capability on your own, and then MJ can elevate you to all-time great and 6x champion HOF... ...
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New York baby!!
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by 3ball
If you can't personally teach someone else to do it, then you don't know what it is
And I suspect that you can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, so no .
3ball is focused on me, no in fact, obsessed with me like Lebron
You log on ISH to see me. Weird.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't MJ elevate Kwame Brown?
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
3ball is focused on me, no in fact, obsessed with me like Lebron
You log on ISH to see me. Weird.
Well tbh, you and me are like the only ones on here lately.. holding down ISH all by ourselves.. I'm mj ur pippen tho
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