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Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Right now, Kyrie is putting up 47/40/87%. No rookie ever has shot those percentages on the number of shots he is attempting. What's more impressive is when you look at the players who have ever put up seasons comparable to Irving's.
For players who have shot >= 47/40/86 with at least 2 3PTA a game, it's essentially a list of the greatest shooters of all time.
Steve Nash: 10 seasons
Miller, Mullins: 4 seasons
Allen, Bird, Hornacek: 3 seasons
Ainge, Barros, B. Barry, Calderon, Hawkins, Legler, Nowitzki, Price, Smith, Stojakavic, Sczerbiak: 2 seasons
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Slow down son. He's having a great year, but this is not even a top 10 rookie season of all time.
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Heat baby #yolo
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Slow down son. He's having a great year, but this is not even a top 10 rookie season of all time.
Says who?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by jb220
Says who?
History.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Slow down son. He's having a great year, but this is not even a top 10 rookie season of all time.
How do you even rank such a thing? Statistically, he is having an all-time rookie season. But, if it were just that it would be one thing... He is also completely taking over literally every game in 4th quarters and willing his team to either wins or close losses in games that they probably have no business even competing in.
He has been phenomenal. Unfortunately, not many people have been watching.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Just about everyone on the top 10 GOAT list had better rookie seasons.
Wes Unseld is not even top 10, and he won MVP in his rookie year.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Over the last 25 games, Kyrie is leading the league in scoring in the 4th Quarter and doing it at an amazing shooting percentage (over 50% from the floor, I believe).
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Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Slow down son. He's having a great year, but this is not even a top 10 rookie season of all time.
Who said anything about it being a top 10 rookie season? It's simply the best shooting season by any rookie. He could be putting up a higher PPG while sacrificing his percentages, but he doesn't. He picks his spots and gets himself in situations that he can hit high percentage shots. That is a hallmark of a great shooter.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Over the last 25 games, Kyrie is leading the league in scoring in the 4th Quarter and doing it at an amazing shooting percentage (over 50% from the floor, I believe).
Like I said, he is having a great year, and I think he is the real deal, but this is far from an all time year for a rookie.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by Tenchi Ryu
Speaking as someone who watched James in every game that he played his rookie year and I've done the same for Kyrie, Irving is having a pretty clearly superior rookie season. James made a dramatic leap from Year 1 to Year 2. That is when he really began taking off.
He showed signs of brilliance in his rookie year, but he wasn't even close to as consistently good as Irving has been, night-in and night-out.
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in Brooklyn
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
I'm confused. Thread is about percentage/efficiency. Why are you guys talking about having greater seasons?
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Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Just about everyone on the top 10 GOAT list had better rookie seasons.
Wes Unseld is not even top 10, and he won MVP in his rookie year.
Ray Allen is the greatest shooter of all time. Micheal Jordan is the greatest player. Do you understand the difference?
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5-time NBA All-Star
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Speaking as someone who watched James in every game that he played his rookie year and I've done the same for Kyrie, Irving is having a pretty clearly superior rookie season. James made a dramatic leap from Year 1 to Year 2. That is when he really began taking off.
He showed signs of brilliance in his rookie year, but he wasn't even close to as consistently good as Irving has been, night-in and night-out.
If I'm not mistaken Lebron was a year younger, dropped 20/5/5 or something and had about a 20 win increase. He was better than Irving in his rookie year, but Irving isn't too far behind. Had many spectacular games too.
To say Irving was clearly superior is extremely poor analysis.
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NBA Legend
Re: Kyrie Irving is the best rookie shooter ever
The word that I would use to describe Irving's play is unbelievable.
I can't believe he's 19. A real prodigy (the likes basketball doesn't really see). Paradoxically though I can't see holes in his game (aside from D) that he could work on to become even better. What can he really improve on and how much? It's so difficult to evaluate his ceiling for these reasons for me.
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