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    Default Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    To win 3 rings, MJ scored a lot more with equal assists, and the gap is bigger in the Finals:


    FINALS PER GAME THRU 31 (3 rings each):

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.7 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="Navy"]Lebron Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg[/COLOR]


    How can anyone say lebron is asked to do more??...

    Its because people get fooled by lebron having the ball in his hands... ... but he's routinely out of the top 100 in points-per-touch - his style wastes time ...
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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Nope, Jordan never had to do this to win a title


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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Beach talents is fuming

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Wait this thread is actually being serious? Well the quick and obvious answer is that competition is different. You're trying to compare what a guy puts up against a D1 school to a D2 school?

    It's like comparing a guy's #s vs Kawhi, Iggy, Draymond, PG13 and then a guy's #s vs Hornacek, Porter, Ehlo, Starks, Russell.

    Got it?

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Nope, Jordan never had to do this to win a title

    Dagger

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Nope, Jordan never had to do this to win a title

    How great is the GOAT

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Nope, Jordan never had to do this to win a title

    ^^^^ Kyrie carried an equal scoring load and defensive attention in this series

    So mj's 1993 was better because he scored 20 more than Pippen and his record 41 ppg was 11 more than lebron

    And MJ taking out Magic's Lakers in 91' was better too (the only player ever to average 10+ apg without playing PG)

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    brilliant. I love the NBA Forum here in ish . There is a huge variety of topics.


    lets somehow bring Kobe into this topic so we can discuss Lebron, MJ and Kobe. That would be awesome.

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by pastis
    brilliant. I love the NBA Forum here in ish . There is a huge variety of topics.


    lets somehow bring Kobe into this topic so we can discuss Lebron, MJ and Kobe. That would be awesome.

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    How do you respond to the stats showing that MJ needed to score 7 more ppg in the playoffs and 9 more in the Finals to win 3 rings? (with equal assists)

    MJ did more, and the media is simply ignorant for not seeing it, or forgetting...

    Ultimately, people get fooled by lebron having the ball in his hands, but he's routinely out of the top 100 in points-per-touch - so his style wastes time

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    How do you respond to the stats showing that MJ needed to score 7 more ppg in the playoffs and 9 more in the Finals to win 3 rings? (with equal assists)

    MJ did more, and the media is simply ignorant for not seeing it, or forgetting...

    Ultimately, people get fooled by lebron having the ball in his hands, but he's routinely out of the top 100 in points-per-touch - so his style wastes time
    Which Finals does LeBron win averaging 4 rebounds and 2 assists?
    Which Finals does LeBron have a teammate (PIPPEN) average 21/9/8 with elite defense?
    Which Finals does LeBron win averaging 27 on 41% versus a 6'2 defender?

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Which Finals does LeBron win averaging 4 rebounds and 2 assists?
    Which Finals does LeBron have a teammate (PIPPEN) average 21/9/8 with elite defense?
    Which Finals does LeBron win averaging 27 on 41% versus a 6'2 defender?
    Which finals does mj MAKE averaging 22 ppg in the ecf


    Which Finals does MJ win averaging only 2 - 6 points more than his 2nd option?? (MJ needed 10-20 more than 2nd option to win all his Finals)

    Which Finals does MJ win with shit leadership like 17, 18, and 17 points to start the series, thus needing a HOF teammate to hit a saving 3-pointer? (MJ had no HOF teammates that were clutch or could shoot)

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    did you really need a 2nd topic addressing the same point? shook af

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Nope, Jordan never had to do this to win a title

    Nick Anderson approves.

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    Default Re: Lebron not asked to do more: 27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 PO < 33.7 and 6.6 in 91-93

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
    Nick Anderson approves.
    Did lebron get those 10+ apg without playing PG like MJ in 1991?

    Nope

    Only MJ got 10+ without playing pg, or 11+

    Btw, MJ turned it over twice at the end of game 1 of 95' ecsf.. so no teammate got a chance to shoot.. accordingly, MJ never passed to a teammate for the last shot and they missed... Surely because his fearlessness was contagious and aura too great.. whereas lebron lost a bunch by passing to teammates, proving he's inferior

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