Prime Kobe most skilled offensive player ever?

[superduper]

I've been saying that Kobe is the most skilled player ever when u combine scoring skillset, handles, passing, and defense as a package. So if we are just talking offense, he would still get the crown. He had more tools across the board to dominate a game than any other player. THAT doesn't mean he's the best offensive player ever. Just means his skillset is more varied than everybody else!

But what's his VORP and winshare?

/LetardLogic

[ImKobe]

more basketball porn

[StrongLurk]

Disagree. MJ beats Kobe in skill. Same with Bird and others as well.

[FKAri]

Why specify prime Kobe? Did Kobe get less skilled after his prime?

[Sakkreth]

Easily. The entire league acknowledged it back then and it wasn't even a debate. Kobe's all-around game was 2nd to none in terms of his offensive arsenal and how polished all his moves were. He's the hardest worker of all-time in NBA history, maybe in all of sports.

First one - bunch of useless moves that doesn't shake the defender, then he takes midrange contested fadeway which he makes 30% of the time.

Second - shakes a horrible defender and takes a long 2 pointer which he makes 35% of the time.

Third - can't beat his defender so puts up a hail mary and it luckily goes in.

Fourth - push off. Offensive foul.

[sammichoffate]

First one - bunch of useless moves that doesn't shake the defender, then he takes midrange contested fadeway which he makes 30% of the time.

Second - shakes a horrible defender and takes a long 2 pointer which he makes 35% of the time.

Third - can't beat his defender so puts up a hail mary and it luckily goes in.

Fourth - push off. Offensive foul.

You're so salty

[tontoz]

Kobe's career TS of 55% would currently rank 28th among 2s.

[andgar923]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]In today

[Young X]

He's definitely on that level.

[kennethgriffen]

Not this again.

Whatever Kobe could do, MJ did better.

Next.

yeah sure. mj did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDWmwWdfrXc

[TheCorporation]

Probably around 12th best

[Bronbron23]

yeah sure. mj did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDWmwWdfrXc

Nope mj was way to smart to do any of that. There a reason why mj was more efficient and Kobe has the most misses ever. For every tough shot that Kobe made there's 3 or 4 that he missed.

[andgar923]

yeah sure. mj did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDWmwWdfrXc

MJ didn't have to.

That's what you don't seem to get.

Most of those shots aren't indicative of skill. It takes more skill to get an easier shot than to take a forced contested shot, get it???

Most of those plays Kobe either doesn't recognize, doesn't have the skill or simply doesn't have the IQ to put himself in a better situation.

Naw.. never mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzbrBUFB4Y

1foot 3pt shots? how about from HALF COURT
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=181

Double pump and split defenders IN MID AIR?
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=198

Catch and shoot turnaround over defender
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=304

Shoot over a double team
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=313

Stop, pump fake from 2 feet away the 3pt line
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=335

Running 1 foot jumper over a defender.... from HALF COURT
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=530

Catch and shoot turnaround while fading away
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=694
https://youtu.be/AJzbrBUFB4Y?t=775

According to this logic, Bron and Harden are more skilled than Kobe as they've hit a shit ton of more 3pt shots over defenders. We can post a compilation of Bron and Harden hitting tough 3pt shots over defenders as well.

[andgar923]

Kobe is highly skilled and recognizes game.

Too bad his fans don't.

[tontoz]

Kobe was great at taking the shots the defense wanted him to take.