To start a franchise with: Kobe/KG vs. LeBron/Dirk

[Meticode]

It was Pierce's team. KG was the emotional leader, Pierce was the closer when the game was on the line. Pierce's team.

[with malice]

Is there any other way for it to be "someone's team" beyond being the "emotional leader"?
KG lead that team, they became hard-nosed and smash-mouthed just as KG was. It was Pierce's team prior to that season, but with the arrival of KG that changed, just as the team changed.
I have had this conversation with many Boston fans/bloggers - and the vast majority regard KG as the team's leader.

[pauk]

you have to be kidding me? Lebron/Dirk gives you ALOT more....

Lebron/Dirk basically gives you a total package of:

*Best shooting (Dirk)
*Best scoring (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best passing (Lebron)
*Best offensive/defensive versatility (Lebron)
*Best clutchness (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best productions (Lebron)
*Best leadership (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best defense (Lebron)
*Great rebounding (Dirk/Lebron)

Kobe/KG gives you:

*Best scoring (Kobe)
*Best clutchness (Kobe)
*Best defense (Garnett/Kobe)
*Best leadership (Garnett/Kobe)
*Great rebounding (Garnett)


ONE MORE THING............ IF YOU ARE GONA START A FRANCHISE WITH KOBE.... PLEASE REMEMBER HOW HE WAS WHEN HE CAME TO THE NBA.... HE WAS NO BETTER THAN HAROLD MINER.... THEN HE WAS JUST A 6TH MAN... THEN HE WAS A SIDEKICK....

MEANWHILE LEBRON & DIRK WOULD DOMINATE THE LEAGUE FROM THE GET GO...

LAST THING.... LEBRON & DIRK WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMPLEMENTARY PLAYERS, PROBABLY PERFECTLY COMPLEMENTARY TO THEIR GAMES & GAMESTYLES...

[ThaSwagg3r]

Is there any other way for it to be "someone's team" beyond being the "emotional leader"?
KG lead that team, they became hard-nosed and smash-mouthed just as KG was. It was Pierce's team prior to that season, but with the arrival of KG that changed, just as the team changed.
I have had this conversation with many Boston fans/bloggers - and the vast majority regard KG as the team's leader.

I didn't even say it wasn't KG's team all I said was KG was not the best or second best player in the 2008 Finals which is true. There is a reason why KG was not even in consideration for the 2008 Finals MVP. It was because Allen and Pierce were clearly better in the Finals. I don't think that the Celtics would have made it to the Finals without him though but I don't think they would have made it without Pierce either.

[AirTupac]

Tough choice but it's gotta be Kobe / KG for me.

[bdreason]

Kobe/KG is a no-brainer.

[bdreason]

MEANWHILE LEBRON & DIRK WOULD DOMINATE THE LEAGUE FROM THE GET GO...

Dirk dominated in the NBA from the get go?

[ballup]

Pauk, what is with you and your obsession with productivity?

You forgot to mention that KG is one of the better passers for his position, how Kobe is one of the better rebounders for his position, and how Garnett is considered one of the most, if not the most, versatile pf to play the game.

And don't give us this rudimentary tally system. No way should Lebron's best defense be put in the same light as both Kobe's best and KG's best defense.

Now look what you made me do. I defended a Laker. You should be ashamed of yourself

[with malice]

I didn't even say it wasn't KG's team ...

Nah mate, my comment was directed to the immediately preceding one (Meticode), not at you.

@ Pauk... dude, most people don't regard capslock to be an effective way of emphasis. It just comes across as foaming-at-the-mouth-crazed-fan-guy.
Still, your fandom is laudable.

Anyway, on your points... I'm not even going to go into your dot-points as they're completely subjective.
But the 'capslock' stuff:
- Kobe started at the Lakers. With Shaq. LeBron at Cleveland. I believe that's enough said on that.
- Umm... what?
- We're talking about a PF that plays like a SF, and a SF who plays like a PF. Pray tell, how do they complement each other *more* than KG/Kobe (a traditional 3 and 4)?

[amfirst]

KObe and KG primes were just too sick. We already seen LeBron's prime, but for some reason Dirk is actually better pass his prime, prob the experience factor.

[Brunch@Five]

in a game 2 vs 2 I'm taking Bron/Dirk. 5 on 5, Kobe/KG is probably easier to build around due to Dirk's lack of presence around the hoop on defense.

[with malice]

in a game 2 vs 2 I'm taking Bron/Dirk. 5 on 5, Kobe/KG is probably easier to build around due to Dirk's lack of presence around the hoop on defense.

Now sure. But peak-vs-peak, I don't think it's close.

[RazorBaLade]

you have to be kidding me? Lebron/Dirk gives you ALOT more....

Lebron/Dirk basically gives you a total package of:

*Best shooting (Dirk)
*Best scoring (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best passing (Lebron)
*Best offensive/defensive versatility (Lebron)
*Best clutchness (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best productions (Lebron)
*Best leadership (Lebron/Dirk)
*Best defense (Lebron)
*Great rebounding (Dirk/Lebron)

Kobe/KG gives you:

*Best scoring (Kobe)
*Best clutchness (Kobe)
*Best defense (Garnett/Kobe)
*Best leadership (Garnett/Kobe)
*Great rebounding (Garnett)


ONE MORE THING............ IF YOU ARE GONA START A FRANCHISE WITH KOBE.... PLEASE REMEMBER HOW HE WAS WHEN HE CAME TO THE NBA.... HE WAS NO BETTER THAN HAROLD MINER.... THEN HE WAS JUST A 6TH MAN... THEN HE WAS A SIDEKICK....

MEANWHILE LEBRON & DIRK WOULD DOMINATE THE LEAGUE FROM THE GET GO...

LAST THING.... LEBRON & DIRK WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMPLEMENTARY PLAYERS, PROBABLY PERFECTLY COMPLEMENTARY TO THEIR GAMES & GAMESTYLES...

im confused why do you say something like best scoring for both? if they are the best they should be the only, right?

[All Net]

Prime? Kobe and KG

[RRR3]

The 2008 Celtics were clearly KG's team, regardless of what happened in the Finals.
The entire team even took on his persona...

Oh, and I'd definitely go Kobe/KG. There's far too much overlap in LeBron/Dirk's offense, and they're at best "good" defenders (at best) - whereas peak Kobe/KG are truly elite.