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15x all nba legend
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by Cold soul
Wow some of these replies are bad Curry is amazing offensively still take about 10-15 players over him on offense people are jumping gun as usual after brillant 4th quarter and OT by Curry.
10-15 people you would take offensively over Curry??
No way.
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NBA Superstar
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by Bankaii
Curry makes Ordan look like prime playoffs Demar Derozan.
He makes Lebron _ames look like Porkins.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
You must have missed Duncan. Has 5/6th Jordan's rings and never had a losing record like Jordan did for a third of his career.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by jstern
It's funny, being prisoner of the moment. I mean, Jordan dropped 40 and 50 points on a regular bases. More often than Curry. Right? Yet, if Curry score 40 points, since it just happened, then he's the greatest offensive player of all time. If things were in reverse. If Curry played 25 years ago with the Current rules, and Jordan scored a typical 40 points last night with the old rules, then people would not be saying that about Curry.
Perspective is a hard thing to find on this forum.
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Laker Nation
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by inclinerator
steven curry is better than mj on offense, mj wins overral because of the total package
this.
Curry is the greatest offensive player the game has every seen.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by Cold soul
Yeah and scoring in more ways like driving and finishing at rim dunking over players its impressive for how small Curry is and only being average athlete at best while being this dominate.
The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by konex
The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.
Each stat is linked to NBA.COM:
Over 80% of today's 3-point attempts are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "very open" (6+ feet) - [COLOR="Navy"]as described by NBA.com[/COLOR]:
[COLOR="White"]........................................[/COLOR]0-2 ft (very tight)[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 2-4 ft (tight)[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 4-6 ft (open)[COLOR="White"].... [/COLOR]6+ ft (very open)
[COLOR="DarkRed"]LEAGUE-AVERAGE
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][COLOR="White"]........[/COLOR]0.4[COLOR="White"]....................[/COLOR] 4.1[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]9.9[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]9.4 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<-- nba.com[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]1.7%[COLOR="White"]................[/COLOR]17.2%[COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]41.6%[COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]39.5%
Over [COLOR="blue"]70%[/COLOR] of Curry's 3-point attempts are either "open" (4-6 ft) or "very open" (6+ ft).. However, the league average is [COLOR="red"]80%[/COLOR], as shown above.
[COLOR="White"]........................................[/COLOR]0-2 ft (very tight)[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 2-4 ft (tight)[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 4-6 ft (open)[COLOR="White"].... [/COLOR]6+ ft (very open)
[COLOR="DarkRed"]STEPH CURRY'S.
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][COLOR="White"]........[/COLOR]0.4[COLOR="White"]....................[/COLOR] 2.9[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]5.1[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]2.7 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<-- nba.com[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]0.4%[COLOR="White"]................[/COLOR] 26.1%[COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]45.9%[COLOR="White"].............[/COLOR]24.3%
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Good High School Starter
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
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NBA.com's stats in the post above shows that most of today's 3-pointers (including Curry's) are wide open, which makes sense - today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.
Jordan would benefit immensely from this spacing dynamic.. He has the same goat athleticism as Lebron/Westbrook, but they can't shoot, and Jordan could - he had goat efficiency, better than Curry's, which puts him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gives him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron and Westbrook.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Great performance. I don't see how anyone will beat him. Same feeling as when MJ played.
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by oh the horror
Boy some of you need to calm down. Jesus
it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by sekachu
it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment
Also, unlike today's 3-point-happy league, Jordan didn't have teammates spreading the floor for him - teams only attempted 5 threes per game when Jordan won his first ring in 1991, compared to 25 attempts per game for today's teams.
So today's player benefits from teammates that space the floor and cause defenders to cover more ground - three-point shooters benefit [COLOR="Navy"]the most[/COLOR] from scrambling defenders, which is why 80% of today's 3-pointers (including Curry's) are "open" or "very open", as described on NBA.com's stats page.
Otoh, Jordan achieved his stats WITHOUT teammates spreading the floor.. In today's spaced-out game, his stats would explode because he has the same (better) athleticism as Lebron/Westbrook, but they can't shoot, and Jordan could - he had goat midrange efficiency, better than Curry's, which puts him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gives him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron and Westbrook.
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-10-2016 at 04:51 AM.
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GOAT
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by ninephive
You must have missed Duncan. Has 5/6th Jordan's rings and never had a losing record like Jordan did for a third of his career.
MJ never lost a Finals like Duncan did doe.
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Good college starter
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
Originally Posted by nba_55
And he also did not know how to win a playoffs series without Pippen as shown with his 1-9 record in the playoffs without Pippen.
Curry is way better than Jordan offensively. Accept it and move on if you want to live your last few days happily.
Curry didn't even know what the playoffs was for his first 3 years. Isn't it better to make the playoffs and lose, than not make it all?
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