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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    how are the situation at all comparable? he left and waited till Cleveland got muthafu@cking STACKED

    So Kyrie Irving and a 19 year old unproven draft pick is stacked now?

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by moe94
    Stacked? It's nowhere near stacked. How is it stacked? They were a putrid team that added the number 1 pick who clearly isn't going to dominate right away. Are you saying Wiggins makes them stacked?
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    with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?!

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
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    with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?!
    So top 4 seed in a putrid conference is stacked, especially when it's not even a reality but a prediction?

    Pray tell, what are the Clippers?

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Does anyone dispute that LeBron went to Miami to win titles?

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
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    with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?!

    You didn't even include Bennett

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    You didn't even include Bennett
    too stacked

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....
    Last edited by pauk; 07-10-2014 at 12:59 PM.

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
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    with superior european tactician in Blatt coaching.. that's not a top 4 seed in the east?!
    nope. Wiggins will at least take 1 if not 2 seasons to get used to the NBA schedule.

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....
    look at this agenda spouting stan

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    If he was leeching off of a championship team sure, especially if he was just a sidekick aswell or worse there... but coming to a team that was much worse than his, a team which either missed the playoffs or lost in 1st round since 2006 and put it on his back instantly turning it into a championship team, 4 straight finals and 2 championships... and THEN come back to Cleveland in 2014 which was a horrible team everyday since his very departure in 2009 and most probably turn it into a championship team aswell, just like that.... sorry.... no... thats not a ring chaser.... more like arguably the most impactful player perhaps ever....


    Going to Cleveland is not ring chasing. If he went to the Clippers, Bulls or Houston that would be ring chasing but he is, reportedly, joining a 33 win team that has not even sniffed the playoffs since he left. It has young talent and has a better core than Miami, but if his objective is to chase rings, among teams that could sign him, LAC, HOU, CHI are his best bets (in no order) and several more teams like DAL and PHX are better options than Cleveland.

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

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    Going to Cleveland is not ring chasing. If he went to the Clippers, Bulls or Houston that would be ring chasing but he is, reportedly, joining a 33 win team that has not even sniffed the playoffs since he left. It has young talent and has a better core than Miami, but if his objective is to chase rings, among teams that could sign him, LAC, HOU, CHI are his best bets (in no order) and several more teams like DAL and PHX are better options than Cleveland.
    but he would be seen as a mercenary if he went to a third team. winning in cleveland is the only way to truly magnify his legacy

    ni99a is shrewd as hell

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    You are right that he would receive flack for going anywhere else, but it does show he is not simply a ring chaser. The only thing Cleveland is #1 in is in its marketing potential for him, which goes to your shrewd point. LeBron's popularity never rebounded to its pre-Decision level. Returning to Cleveland could repair that--and perhaps winning there could propel him to an even higher level of popularity. The narrative would be too good if LeBron is in the Finals with Cleveland. Other than fans of the opposing team and LeBron haters, who would be rooting against him?

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by ZHAKIDD532
    What's wrong with being a ring chaser. If he stayed in Cleveland originally and took the money, we'd say he doesn't care about winning. If he goes to a team that has a good chance to win, you bash him anyway.

    There's literally nothing that he could do that people wouldn't find something to bash him for.
    This. LeBron could cure cancer and people would bitch it took him until 30 to do so

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    Default Re: If Lebron returns to cleveland, can anyone dispute the fact that he was a ring chaser

    Quote Originally Posted by rule1223
    ring chasing is the easiest way to win a ring, without a doubt any of the top 100 players in nba history couldve won a ring if they ring chased, especially if they did it in their prime, if he returns to cleveland, the value of his rings are gonna drop even lower than their current value, which arent that high to begin with
    Barkley did and failed

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