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ISH's Negro Historian
Rank these group of players?
Clyde Drexler
Michael Jordan
Joe Dumars
Reggie Miller
Mitch Richmond
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Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Paul Pierce
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NBA Legend
Re: Rank these group of players?
2nd group's more talented but injuries to VC and TMac make this a meaningless discussion.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by FKAri
2nd group's more talented but injuries to VC and TMac make this a meaningless discussion.
Contrary to popular belief, Vince has only had two seasons (ten year prime years with Toronto and New Jersey) where he didn't play more than 73 games. 60 games in 2001 and 43 games in 2002. It wasn't until 2012 where he's play a 61 games season and last year he played 66.
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Great college starter
Re: Rank these group of players?
Jordan
Drex
Reggie
Dumars
Ritchmond .
Other group ;
Kobe
Pierce
Ray
Vince
T-Mac
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NBA Legend
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Contrary to popular belief, Vince has only had two seasons (ten year prime years with Toronto and New Jersey) where he didn't play more than 73 games. 60 games in 2001 and 43 games in 2002. It wasn't until 2012 where he's play a 61 games season and last year he played 66.
I guess Grant Hill is a paragon of longevity then. Vince peaked in 2001. I saw him in NJ and Toronto, and he was not better in NJ. He was smarter but his lateral movement and quickness were gone. He could still jump thanks to being a 2 foot leaper but he was no longer the all round athlete.
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Coach
Re: Rank these group of players?
1) MJ
2) Kobe
3) Clyde
4) T-Mac
5) PP
6) Ray
7) VC
8) Mitch
9) Joe D.
10) Reggie
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Battle of LeBulge
Re: Rank these group of players?
OP just found a complicated way of asking team A or team B?
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College star
Re: Rank these group of players?
Very close but the 1st group.
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Coach
Re: Rank these group of players?
Group B is undoubtedly top to bottom more talented. Not even an argument to be had. 2000 - 2009 ish is the greatest era of SGs I've seen.
You also left out Iverson, who should be there instead of Pierce who was more a SF.
A bunch of mini Jordans running around. Now we just got Harden, and Klay. Old Wade. And should've retired 3x years ago Kobe.
Current status is the worst era of SGs I've ever seen.
With that said, group 1 are the better defenders. Smarter. And more durable, as well as more proven or accomplished players. Probably better in terms of a fit on a team as well.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by Eye Test
OP just found a complicated way of asking team A or team B?
Gotta be different.
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NBA Legend
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Group B is undoubtedly top to bottom more talented. Not even an argument to be had. 2000 - 2009 ish is the greatest era of SGs I've seen.
You also left out Iverson, who should be there instead of Pierce who was more a SF.
A bunch of mini Jordans running around. Now we just got Harden, and Klay. Old Wade. And should've retired 3x years ago Kobe.
Current status is the worst era of SGs I've ever seen.
With that said, group 1 are the better defenders. Smarter. And more durable, as well as more proven or accomplished players. Probably better in terms of a fit on a team as well.
Not even sure if durability is even a thing. Playstyle can lead to injuries (Iverson/Wade) so you could argue that. Aside from that durability is largely based on statistical probability. I don't think there's guys that have substantially stronger ACLs or shoulder ligaments.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Group B is undoubtedly top to bottom more talented. Not even an argument to be had. 2000 - 2009 ish is the greatest era of SGs I've seen.
You also left out Iverson, who should be there instead of Pierce who was more a SF.
A bunch of mini Jordans running around. Now we just got Harden, and Klay. Old Wade. And should've retired 3x years ago Kobe.
Current status is the worst era of SGs I've ever seen.
With that said, group 1 are the better defenders. Smarter. And more durable, as well as more proven or accomplished players. Probably better in terms of a fit on a team as well.
Iverson is little that's why I didn't add him. So was Dumars, but he's at least 6'4.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rank these group of players?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
1) MJ
2) Kobe
3) Clyde
4) T-Mac
5) PP
6) Ray
7) VC
8) Mitch
9) Joe D.
10) Reggie
In 1998, Reggie almost beat MJ's Bulls in ECF.. In 2000, he took that same team to the Finals as #1 option and severely outplayed Kobe... Reggie Miller > Vince Carter and Ray Allen:
CAREER IN PLAYOFFS:
Miller[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]: 20.6 ppg.. 44.9 fg.. 60.4 ts.. 119 ortg.. 19.5 PER.. 0.180 ws/48
Carter: 19.1 ppg.. 41.3 fg.. 51.2 ts.. 106 ortg.. 18.6 PER.. 0.125 ws/48
Allen[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]: 16.1 ppg.. 44.3 fg.. 58.5 ts.. 115 ortg.. 16.3 PER.. 0.143 ws/48
rebs, ast, stl, and blk, dbpm negligible
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