5 Top Debates - Where do you stand? For OR Against

[Draz]

Send them to Mexico or Canada.

Cuba

[BasedTom]

The death penalty - "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".

Why take away a life because we lost a life? It only shows we're as inhumane as the criminal himself.

breivik killed 77 of his countrymen in cold blood. For this crime, the Norwegian government is providing him with room and board for 21 years (no life sentence, that's too cruel! )



^tell me how this is supposed to pass for justice.

[Cactus-Sack]

Cuba

Canada a harsher punishment

[Draz]

breivik killed 77 of his countrymen in cold blood. For this crime, the Norwegian government is providing him with room and board for 21 years (no life sentence, that's too cruel! )



^tell me how this is supposed to pass for justice.

Hey, I didn't create that prison lol. There are other nicer countries with more attractive prisons too.

Being locked up away from civilization and people, that takes a toll no matter how nice of an environment you're locked into universally.

[iamgine]

Torture used for national security - YES with correct protocol and documentation

Death penalty - NO the criminals can be used for science experiment.

Gay marriage - NO but lesbian marriage yes

Abortion - YES up to certain month

Marijuana - YES but in designated places like smoking/alcohol

[dude77]

Her choice should be to act like an adult and procure emergency contraception within 72hrs. If she fails to do this then she is just as culpable for the resulting pregnancy as the rapist.

Prevention of mental anguish is not an excuse to commit a murder.

well, after a brutal gangrape or any other rape she won't exactly be in a good state of mind .. she may not even go to the police or pretend it didn't happen initially .. 72 hrs can go by quickly at that stage .. but that is a valid point .. if she can do that, it will obviously take care of that .. but it's not that black and white

[Draz]

10 of the World’s Most Luxurious Prisons, and One Wild Card Thriller

[Cactus-Sack]

well, after a brutal gangrape or any other rape she won't exactly be in a good state of mind .. she may not even go to the police or pretend it didn't happen initially .. 72 hrs can go by quickly at that stage .. but that is a valid point .. if she can do that, it will obviously take care of that .. but it's not that black and white

No it's not black and white, but my earlier point is. Either it's a human and not ok to kill or it's not a human and okay to kill.

However unfortunate for the mother the circumstance of the conception does not have any bearing on the validity of the life.

[9erempiree]

Marijuana will be legalized under Trump.

He said it in a recent interview.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Torture used for national security - YES with correct protocol and documentation

Death penalty - NO the criminals can be used for science experiment.

Gay marriage - NO but lesbian marriage yes

Abortion - YES up to certain month

Marijuana - YES but in designated places like smoking/alcohol

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[Solidape]

I'm against torture being used for national security.

I'm against the death penalty.

I'm for gay marriage.

I'm for abortion.

I'm for marijuana legalization.

+1

[Smoke117]

1.For...though it's useful in an facet and not just "national security"...as an American I can legit tell you I could care less if this country was buried in it's own shit. I would just move...I'm no patriot lol. I could care less about the USA even if I'm born and bred here. I've never understood how being on the same land mass makes us some kind of group...you can all go kill yourselves for all I care. I won't blink over it.
2. Absolutely. (all this all lives are precious bullshit can go **** itself)
3. Could care less
4. For it...nobody should tell a person what they can do or cannot do with their own body.
5. I'd rather have it illegal as i know if it was completely legal the price would raise and the quality would drop.

[Godzuki]

False. It's actually more expensive for the death penalty than it is to house an inmate for life.

There are several factors:
Add prosecution costs, defense costs, then appeals and the cost is over one million dollars more than non-death penalty cases.

Trial Attorneys $467,000

Court Costs $70,000

Appeals $100,800

Personal Restraint

Petition $152,900

Habeas Corpus

Petition $238,000

Misc. Petitions ?

= $1,028,700+ MORE than a non-death penalty case

Last year's execution of Cal Brown cost nearly $100,000.

Execution Costs

(2010 Cal Brown Execution)

Overtime $48,771.66

Straight Time $27,090.93

Wages $75,862.59

Travel $5,745.54

Goods & Services $16,205.96

= $97,814.09

So the ballpark price tag of the death penalty in Washington State is $1.7 million, not including some appeals and petitions.

Total Estimated Death Penalty Costs

Court $1,028,700

Prison $606,928

Execution $97,815

=$1,733,443

im 99.9% sure those numbers are very exaggerated for the anti death penalty agendas. public defenders are free unless theyre trying to somehow math their salary vs time spent, which isnt even that much working as a gov lawyer.

if they want to pull that then what does 3 meals a day cost for a lifetime? what do guards cost who often get overtime? how much did the prison cost to build factor to his space/use of it.

its laffable to me how a death penalty could cost more than a lifetime stay in prison. all of these anti death penalty fgts just like the pro life fgts are so fukkin nuts about their cause they blatantly make stupid shit up to dupe people. i mean stop fukkin yappin about what a baby feels and thinks when its a fetus because they got no fukkin idea

[Draz]

Love a good abortion

Always knew you were a strong man emotionally

[TonyMontana]

Torture - [COLOR="Red"]AGAINST[/COLOR]
Death Penalty - FOR
Gay Marriage - FOR
Abortion - FOR
MaryJ - FOR

First poster summed up my views nicely.

Torture is just fuked up and subhuman. During the French-indian war the french would use native americans to torture the prisoners by doing inhumane things such as pulling off fingernails, and mutilating their genitals. It went against the Europeans values, but the native americans did not think twice about doing it. Many of the British troops including eventuall Founding father George Washington were told to save the last bullet for themselves, in case they were to be subjugated to such torture before dying anyway.

But I am not opposed to just killing them quick. None of this expensive lethal injection shit. Most people sentenced to life in prison are true pieces of shit and it's not worth the tax dollars to keep them alive just so they can get out in 40 years and commit the same crime again.

Gay marriage, let them do it.

Abortion, yes let it happen. Most of the people who get abortions belong to the armpit of society. We don't want them reproducing anyway. This is the closest thing to eugenics we have. Also could be used to prevent babies with disabilities from being born, or help women who've been raped.

Legalizing marijuana would ironically hurt the people that deal it more than anyone. The worst part of marijuana is not actually smoking it, but it's associating with the pieces of shit whose lives revolve around it. Give the good people an honest alternative, and put the crums out of business. I don't smoke, but if people want to I don't see the big deal of it.