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Old 11-29-2014, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default A PRIME Walton vs a PRIME Sabonis

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Old 11-29-2014, 09:57 AM   #2
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Default Re: A PRIME Walton vs a PRIME Sabonis

When comparing skilled big men, you always take the white guy.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:59 AM   #3
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When comparing skilled big men, you always take the white guy.

Well then...Dave Cowens it is...
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: A PRIME Walton vs a PRIME Sabonis

This is about the hardest matchup one could make. They were both so good, and rather similar in several ways.

I think I take Sabonis personally. VERY close though.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:22 AM   #5
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Easily Walton.

Slightly related...I wouldn't think twice about taking a prime McAdoo over a prime Sabonis, either.

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:24 AM   #6
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if you ask Walton, he'd say Sabonis

he always speaks in those Sabonis documentaries and he claims Sabonis was the best C he ever saw play or would of been bar injuries or whatever

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:26 AM   #7
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if you ask Walton, he'd say Sabonis

he always speaks in those Sabonis documentaries and he claims Sabonis was the best C he ever saw play

He must have had amnesia then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coHM...os=YqP06ya0k4w

BTW, KAJ also hung games of 48 and 50 points on Walton, as well.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:29 AM   #8
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He must have had amnesia then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coHM...os=YqP06ya0k4w

BTW, KAJ also hung games of 48 and 50 points on Walton, as well.

i edited it anyway but sure:

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2002/Wher...n__Day_15.html

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The lineage then continued to Arvydas Sabonis, who was the second greatest young player I ever saw after Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

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He was 19 years old and played like a 7-3 Larry Bird, running like the wind, shooting threes, dribbling like Magic Johnson, rebounding like Wilt Chamberlain and blocking shots like Bill Russell.

regardless of the hyperbole, sabonis was 30/20 at the half in a european championship game against grown profesionals...

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:34 AM   #9
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if you ask Walton, he'd say Sabonis

he always speaks in those Sabonis documentaries and he claims Sabonis was the best C he ever saw play or would of been bar injuries or whatever

By saying so, he'd imply that Sabonis would be the greatest overall player he's ever seen, since he's also claimed that Jabbar was the greatest overall player he's ever faced, including Jordan, Magic, Bird.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:35 AM   #10
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Artis Gilmore generally gave Walton all he could handle, as well.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=waltobi01

and I wonder if Sabonis could have accomplished this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXCHDcSHBS4




BTW, Robert Parish played against both Gilmore and Shaq, and guess which one he claimed was stronger?
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(I just saw the edit)
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:38 AM   #12
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Artis Gilmore generally gave Walton all he could handle, as well.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=waltobi01

and I wonder if Sabonis could have accomplished this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXCHDcSHBS4




BTW, Robert Parish played against both Gilmore and Shaq, and guess which one he claimed was stronger?

why do you suggenly bring Gilmore to the conversation and pretend blocking a skyhook is some sort of a relevant point in this conversation?

you don't need an excuse to talk about a random old player, but this is not much of a conversation if you don't stick to an actual topic and reply with different shit every time.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:39 AM   #13
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i edited it anyway but sure:

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2002/Wher...n__Day_15.html



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regardless of the hyperbole, sabonis was 30/20 at the half in a european championship game against grown profesionals...

just as a sidenote, who averaged more ppg in their Euro careers, Sabonis, or a 36-42 year old McAdoo?

And how about this...

http://www.euroleague.net/features/v...european-champ

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McAdoo played in Milan until 1990. The two following years he played in Forli with averages of 31.7 points and 9.6 rebounds. He put an end to his career in Teamsystem Fabriano in 1992-93 at 42 years old. Over seven seasons in Italy, he played 201 games, scored 5,427 points (27.3 ppg.) and averaged 9.0 boards per game. He won the Italian League twice, the Italian Cup once and one Intercontinental cup all with Milano

Not bad for a washed up NBA player at age 40.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:42 AM   #14
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why do you suggenly bring Gilmore to the conversation and pretend blocking a skyhook is some sort of a relevant point in this conversation?

you don't need an excuse to talk about a random old player, but this is not much of a conversation if you don't stick to an actual topic and reply with different shit every time.

Basically because you claimed that Walton said that Sabonis was the best (well, second best player) he ever saw.

Hell, and OLD Gilmore, covering TEN straight H2H's with a young Hakeem, averaged 24 ppg on a .677 FG% against Olajuwon.

I don't think there is any question that a prime Gilmore would have had his way with a prime Arvydas.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:45 AM   #15
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To be honest, Sabonis is one of the most over-rated players on this forum.

I could come up with a LONG list of NBA centers, and in their primes, that I would take over a prime Arvydas.
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