Could Lebron win a ring with no other all stars ?

[Real14]

That's something no Knick fan has done at the end of the Finals in 40 years

[G0ATbe]

He's never won a single finals game without at least 2 superstars on his team. Nuff said.

[SouBeachTalents]

Just because a player isn't named to the all-star team......doesn't mean he isn't a star.

Very true, Pippen was definitely a star by '91, he was great in the playoffs

[Real14]

Just because a player isn't named to the all-star team......doesn't mean he isn't a star.

In this case it does.

2012- HEAT ALL STARS- Lebron, Wade, Bosh
2013- HEAT ALL STARS- Lebron, Wade, Bosh

I think Lebron and Wade started both all star games right?

[Real14]

Very true, Pippen was definitely a star by '91, he was great in the playoffs

Did he played in the 1991 all star game?

[K Xerxes]

Yes, he could. As could all of the other all time greats were they to have a good enough team around them and inferior competition. People seem to be obsessed with collections of all stars or superstars as though that is the overarching barometer for championships. Sure they help a lot, but a huge component of championship teams is chemistry and coaching.

If Barry or Dirk could do it, I think 15-20 players in history could do it. Not to mention that Lebron's peak ability is in the ballpark of Duncan and maybe even Hakeem who have also done it respectively.

[SouBeachTalents]

Did he played in the 1991 all star game?

So 2014 Bosh > '91 Pippen? Got it

[Real14]

Yes, he could. As could all of the other all time greats were they to have a good enough team around them and inferior competition. People seem to be obsessed with collections of all stars or superstars as though that is the overarching barometer for championships. Sure they help a lot, but a huge component of championship teams is chemistry and coaching.

If Barry or Dirk could do it, I think 15-20 players in history could do it. Not to mention that Lebron's peak ability is in the ballpark of Duncan and maybe even Hakeem who have also done it respectively.

CAVS Lebron in 09 and 10 had 60 wins in each year. Why he couldn't get it done with them?

[Real14]

So 2014 Bosh > '91 Pippen? Got it

This has nothing to do with 2014 though, and Bosh was an all star that year anyway

[Real14]

He's never won a single finals game without at least 2 superstars on his team. Nuff said.

NOT 1.

[SouBeachTalents]

This has nothing to do with 2014 though, and Bosh was an all star that year anyway

Exactly, you said Pippen wasn't an all-star in '91, so since Bosh was last year, that must mean he was a better player right?

[T_L_P]

Unless you have a two-way anchor, I think it'd be near impossible for somebody to win without another fringe star.

Duncan and Hakeem didn't have one with them (some say Thrope was one, but I'm not so sure). Jordan, and Dirk to a lesser extent, did have one.

Though in today's East and a weak Finals opponent? Yeah, LeBron could definitely do it. He won't have the chance to now though.

[Real14]

Exactly, you said Pippen wasn't an all-star in '91, so since Bosh was last year, that must mean he was a better player right?

Like I said bro, 2014 has nothing to do with us talking about 91 pippen (year that pippen won his 1st ring) especially since Bosh became 2/4 in 2014.

[K Xerxes]

CAVS Lebron in 09 and 10 had 60 wins in each year. Why he couldn't get it done with them?

As if he wasn't the main reason they won 60 games.

I think everyone that followed them closely knew they were regular season warriors, well suited for games against opposition that wouldn't prepare diligently. I have no idea how it's possible to blame LeBron for 09 when he put up close to a 40 point triple double against Orlando. As for 10, yes he quit, but his team wasn't good enough to win a championship. The Celtics were coached and set up better, they were frankly a better built team. And even if they were to get past the Celtics, Lebron's supporting cast has been known to shrivel up when it matters most. The quality outside Lebron wasn't there. Neither was the coaching. It was reduced to LeBron or bust, and you need a system when you lack stars. That or role players getting hot which never happened to him in that time period.

[Hey Yo]

CAVS Lebron in 09 and 10 had 60 wins in each year. Why he couldn't get it done with them?

Cause he didn't have a star player.