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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
ah...ah ...ah.... we already covered this the other day.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]You said Atlanta's first time All-Star players in 2015 didn't really count as All-Stars[/COLOR].... so that means last second replacement, first timer Mo Williams certainly wasn't a real All-Star in 2009.
Don't be flip floppin', chico
Better than not having ANY all-star teammates like MJ until 1990
whereas lebron had 2 all-star teammates, and numerous former all-stars (Jamison and shaq were all-stars in 09')
Again, It's unfortunate that people compare mj's low seeds from 85-89' to lebron's high seeds from 06-10' that included all-star teammates - its clear that MJ's low seeds compare more to lebron's 9 seeds in 04' and 05'..
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Last edited by 3ball; 01-16-2019 at 04:15 PM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by 3ball
Better than not having ANY all-star teammates like MJ until 1990
whereas lebron had 2 all-star teammates, and numerous former all-stars (Jamison and shaq were all-stars in 09')
Again, It's unfortunate that people compare mj's low seeds from 85-89' to lebron's high seeds from 06-10' that included all-star teammates - its clear that MJ's low seeds compare more to lebron's 9 seeds in 04' and 05'..
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Rookie Jordan and 3rd year Jordan had Orlando Woolridge and his 23ppg and his 20ppg those years. Both easily better than last minute substitute Williams' 17ppg. That means by your standards, Woolridge was an All-Star both years.
We're talking '09, right? So why bring up Jamison and Shaq who weren't even on the Cavs in '09?
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Local High School Star
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by superduper
So why did Kobe wipe his jizz on Dwight and the Magic's collective faces?
It's in the post that you quoted. Kobe's team matched up better on the defensive end. They had Artest's elite defense for example. The Lakers had more size to match with the Magic's perimeter spacers. It wasn't Kobe alone that held the Magic offense in check and far below its regular season level. The Lakers had several defenders who matched up better against the Magic. That's the difference in the two series.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by Ainosterhaspie
It's in the post that you quoted. Kobe's team matched up better on the defensive end. They had Artest's elite defense for example. The Lakers had more size to match with the Magic's perimeter spacers. It wasn't Kobe alone that held the Magic offense in check and far below its regular season level. The Lakers had several defenders who matched up better against the Magic. That's the difference in the two series.
Artest wasn't on the '09 team brah
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Le11th
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Artest wasn't on the '09 team brah
Destroyed
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Local High School Star
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Artest wasn't on the '09 team brah
You are right. Got to own it if I get something wrong. Overall point still stands though. Lakers matched up better defensively.
Last edited by Ainosterhaspie; 01-16-2019 at 05:52 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by Ainosterhaspie
It's in the post that you quoted. Kobe's team matched up better on the defensive end. [COLOR="Red"]They had Artest's elite defense for example[/COLOR]. The Lakers had more size to match with the Magic's perimeter spacers. It wasn't Kobe alone that held the Magic offense in check and far below its regular season level. The Lakers had several defenders who matched up better against the Magic. That's the difference in the two series.
Bran stans being exposed.
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Cmon Rox
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
The Magic were a matchup nightmare for the Cavs. The best player can lose to a better team depending on the matchup. I was so hype when they lost.
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well well well
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
I still can't understand why...
Why!
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Banned
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Kobe's elimination game numbers for his entire CAREER are worse than that
True
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Let's Talks Numbers
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Lol @ Artest's defense in L.A. being referred to as "elite".
Yikes...
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MH!
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Originally Posted by sportjames23
He actually did, but you're just trolling.
Now, your boy had home court advantage against Dwight and what did he do? Yeah, he lost.
Know what MJ never did? That's right, he never lost with home court advantage.
Nah, he just got butt [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]ucked in the first round multiple times and then Isaiah made him his bitch.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
How do you lose with a 66-win team to Dwight Howard...
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Banned
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
Always wondered the same on why he couldn't get by a career loser in Dwight.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why couldn't Lebron get past Dwight Howard in the eastern playoffs?
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