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    Local High School Star Segatti's Avatar
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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    MJ got to 32+ ppg within the "triangle offense" system.
    Kobe-ball system allowed him to shotjock ball hog to 30 ppgs with poor 45%FG.

    MJ was terrific off the ball player.
    Kobe sucks at it if the ball isnt in his hands.

    MJ played KILLER defense. Kobe dont got enough stamina to play good solid defense for 40 mins consistently

    MJ got better & better & better as he got older.
    Kobe got worse & worse & worse as he got older.

    MJ performances got better Reg sea <<Post-sesasons << Finals.
    Kobe performances worsened Reg seas >> Post-season >> Finals.

    MJ carried below average front court Big men.
    Kobe got Carried by NBAs best or most talented big men front court of LAL.

    MJ has "iconic signature" moments from NCAA to NBA to Playoffs to Finals.
    Kobe has NONE.

    MJ changed the NBA forever to a point the rules were deliberately changed to produce MJ like offensive games.
    Kobe CHEAPLY immitated 60% of MJ on offense alone.

    Poor 45% fg

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    MJ marketed himself better and created an iconic image. Kobe hasnt done the same job of turning his competitiveness into a marketable image.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    when your the greatest your gonna have haters. deal with it op.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Kobe has always taken too many long jumpers for a guy who can beat his man off the dribble consistently. Last year he took 13 shots per game outside 16 feet which is ridiculous.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    I would imagine the hate is in large part due to his fans. Also, nobody likes to see people do well so early on. Kobe was blessed early on in his career with his team/coach...and a lot of people don't like to see that.

    Also...he's always been kind of fake.

    His game is amazing though...one of the 10 or so best players ever. Over-rated by some...under-rated by some. And what he's doing in year 17 is remarkable. But so is what Duncan is doing this year as well. I bring that up simply because I think the fact that Kobe gets so much attention pisses a lot of basketball purists or fans of other players/teams off. Like that old poll in which Kobe won player of the generation by a landslide. Not Kobe's fault at all that fans voted that way, but people take their anger out on guys like Kobe and Lebron for that stuff.

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    Kobe= 1st round loser secund2nun's Avatar
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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Because MJ was legit. Kobe is just one of the most overrated athletes of all time.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by secund2nun
    Because MJ was legit. Kobe is just one of the most overrated athletes of all time.
    This.

    Many say If MJ is Bruce Lee, Kobe is Jackie chan

    NOT!

    If MJ = Bruce Lee, Magic = Jackie Chan,

    kobe is a notch below

    Kobe = Jet li or Jason Statham.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Segatti
    Poor 45% fg
    The reason why I keep bringing that up is because kobe is a "SHOOTING" Guard

    & His overall shot selection is so average that he literally "SHOOTS" his team out of playoff contentions or Playoff series with it.

    Thats like an irony in itself.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by thelucifer69
    Kobe Bryant's shot selection

    MJ rarely took bad shot.
    so you hate kobe because he has bad shot selection?

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    This.

    Many say If MJ is Bruce Lee, Kobe is Jackie chan

    NOT!

    If MJ = Bruce Lee, Magic = Jackie Chan,

    kobe is a notch below

    Kobe = Jet li or Jason Statham.
    kobe is a steven seagall.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    MJ got to 32+ ppg within the "triangle offense" system.
    Kobe-ball system allowed him to shotjock ball hog to 30 ppgs with poor 45%FG.

    MJ was terrific off the ball player.
    Kobe sucks at it if the ball isnt in his hands.

    MJ played KILLER defense. Kobe dont got enough stamina to play good solid defense for 40 mins consistently

    MJ got better & better & better as he got older.
    Kobe got worse & worse & worse as he got older.

    MJ performances got better Reg sea <<Post-sesasons << Finals.
    Kobe performances worsened Reg seas >> Post-season >> Finals.

    MJ carried below average front court Big men.
    Kobe got Carried by NBAs best or most talented big men front court of LAL.

    MJ has "iconic signature" moments from NCAA to NBA to Playoffs to Finals.
    Kobe has NONE.

    MJ changed the NBA forever to a point the rules were deliberately changed to produce MJ like offensive games.
    Kobe CHEAPLY immitated 60% of MJ on offense alone.
    i think that about sums it up.

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    I make 50-feet jumpers Odinn's Avatar
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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    MJ got to 32+ ppg within the "triangle offense" system.
    Kobe-ball system allowed him to shotjock ball hog to 30 ppgs with poor 45%FG.

    MJ was terrific off the ball player.
    Kobe sucks at it if the ball isnt in his hands.

    MJ played KILLER defense. Kobe dont got enough stamina to play good solid defense for 40 mins consistently

    MJ got better & better & better as he got older.
    Kobe got worse & worse & worse as he got older.

    MJ performances got better Reg sea <<Post-sesasons << Finals.
    Kobe performances worsened Reg seas >> Post-season >> Finals.

    MJ carried below average front court Big men.
    Kobe got Carried by NBAs best or most talented big men front court of LAL.

    MJ has "iconic signature" moments from NCAA to NBA to Playoffs to Finals.
    Kobe has NONE.

    MJ changed the NBA forever to a point the rules were deliberately changed to produce MJ like offensive games.
    Kobe CHEAPLY immitated 60% of MJ on offense alone.
    Actually I hate this troll. But this time, he has got somethings right this time.

    Jordan's shot selection is much better. Jordan was the better off-ball player. Jordan was capable of playing at the goat perimeter defense level while playing at the goat offense level. I'm not saying Kobe is/was not a good playoff performer but Jordan almost elevated his game through the playoffs better, significantly. Only categories that I can name for Kobe being better than Jordan, 3 pointers and arguably footwork.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Odinn
    Actually I hate this troll. But this time, he has got somethings right this time.

    Jordan's shot selection is much better. Jordan was the better off-ball player. Jordan was capable of playing at the goat perimeter defense level while playing at the goat offense level. I'm not saying Kobe is/was not a good playoff performer but Jordan almost elevated his game through the playoffs better, significantly. Only categories that I can name for Kobe being better than Jordan, 3 pointers and arguably footwork.
    thanks for the love

    BUT

    dude seriously!

    Kobe footwork at MJs level.

    Only player with better footwork than MJ was Hakeem.

    Kobe aint even close. Its just that Kobe has the best footwork of the modern day greats.

    I still haven't seen better footwork than 1984-1993 MJ besides Hakeems.

    As Clyde said recently, "MJ had the quickest feet in the business ever. In a blink of an eye, he passed you"

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Their play styles are very similar, but there are a few differences in their games which makes MJ more efficient and better within the team game.

    MJ is a better off the ball player. He could catch and shoot. He come come off of screens and shoot the ball. Kobe doesn't do this since he needs to dribble to get into rhythm. He also don't take many dribbles once he get into position in the post or iso. He's quicker to attack whatever he drives or shoot the jumper.

    MJ also had better shot selection. Not to say MJ don't take bad shots himself, but he took much better shots than Kobe. Kobe sometimes dribble to a corner and takes some weird fadeaway shots over two or three defenders.

    MJ also had better stamina and played better on defense. He also had quicker hands and reflexes. He played the passing lane better and if you are not careful he would steal the ball. He is top 3 in steals in NBA history, ahead of Gary Payton and just below of Jason Kidd and John Stockton.

    Those are pretty much the main differences. While Kobe doesn't have MJ athletic ability, he definitely have the skills. He just couldn't do those things as well as MJ did unfortunately. Mainly because of his IQ. But Kobe is a great player in his own right. Both players do shoot a lot and sometimes it's a flaw.

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    Default Re: If you loved the way MJ played and approached the game...how can you hate Kobe?

    Insecurity is the only reason why Kobe inspires hate.

    If you peg Jordan as the greatest of all time do you clowns also hate every other guard in NBA history who doesn't do X as well as Jordan?

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