Lou Williams joining the Hawks

[Raz]

Not to mention that he has no basketball IQ and is merely a decent defender.

If thats how Hawks fans think of him, I'm glad he's gone to greener pastures. Johnson is a stud with a contract that is far too big

[fatboy11]

Production is very similar. Joe is not a good rebounder for his size and doesn't get to the line at all. I would say Lou is just as good of a scorer as Joe. Maybe even better considering he gets to the line consistently.

Oh I forgot Joe is an all-star and Lou isn't.

There's no comparison defensively. None. Joe wins hands down. Also, Lou Williams isn't nearly the facilitator Joe Johnson is.

They're very different players. Lou Williams is pretty much a pure scorer and Joe Johnson is the exact opposite of that while still being close to a 20 PPG scorer most seasons.



But, yeah, Lou Williams is pretty much the same player as Joe Johnson.

[Rowe]

Horf, Teague 2 1sts for Dwight confirmed?

Would be funny to see that go down.

[NOHCP3]

Ehhh idk about that Williams/JJ comparison. Yeah the $$ is absurd and obscures his talent level but sixers needed a go to go guy so badly in the playoffs . Lou is good but not that good.

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Eeew

[fatboy11]

Joe averaged 18/4/4 on 45% shooting last year during the regular season, and 17/3/3 on 35% shooting in the playoffs. How good do you think he is exactly?

Not to mention that he has no basketball IQ and is merely a decent defender.

I think he's a damn good basketball player that would benefit greatly from having another playmaker next to him (like Deron Williams). He's not a #1 guy. That's clear. But with another comparable playmaker next to him, he will shine.

He had a down year last year. Is he defined by that? Shouldn't be. Last year was tougher for the Hawks with Horford out.

No basketball IQ? Give me a break.

[fatboy11]

If thats how Hawks fans think of him, I'm glad he's gone to greener pastures. Johnson is a stud with a contract that is far too big

Hawks fan, first of all, suck. Second, they're just pissed that the team didn't do better with Joe as the #1 guy. What's he going to do, turn down max money? That gets him extra criticism and leads certain fans to underrated him.

Teaming with Deron Williams will do wonders for Joe Johnson.

[Reverend Hoops]

There's no comparison defensively. None. Joe wins hands down. Also, Lou Williams isn't nearly the facilitator Joe Johnson is.

They're very different players. Lou Williams is pretty much a pure scorer and Joe Johnson is the exact opposite of that while still being close to a 20 PPG scorer most seasons.



But, yeah, Lou Williams is pretty much the same player as Joe Johnson.

Joe is overrated as a facilitator, Josh Smith is a better passer.

Lou gets to the line more which I like.

Joe was a great defender, but he is steadily declining and doesn't guard SG's as well as he used (Thus being moved to SF for most of the season last year)
No argument there though.

[fatboy11]

Joe is overrated as a facilitator, Josh Smith is a better passer.

[No Evans!]

Hawks fan, first of all, suck. Second, they're just pissed that the team didn't do better with Joe as the #1 guy. What's he going to do, turn down max money? That gets him extra criticism and leads certain fans to underrated him.

Teaming with Deron Williams will do wonders for Joe Johnson.

Joe Johnson's BB IQ is kinda bad. He'll be good in BK because he won't have the ball. JJ was a large contributor to Josh Smith's jump shot attempts. So many times Joe would hold the ball, dribble into the paint , into a double team, and kick out to Josh with 3 seconds left on the clock. He was an enabler. I'm gonna miss him though.

[atljonesbro]

Josh Smith was the best passer on the Hawks last year...

[hawkfan]

Hawks fan, first of all, suck. Second, they're just pissed that the team didn't do better with Joe as the #1 guy. What's he going to do, turn down max money? That gets him extra criticism and leads certain fans to underrated him.

Teaming with Deron Williams will do wonders for Joe Johnson.

Some Hawk fans suck.

But hawkfan is awesome.

That said, Joe needed to go. His footspeed was gone, and more importantly his enthusiasm. He didn't care in the playoffs. He had one game where he scored 9 points against the beat up duo of Pierce and Allen. And he is supposed to be in the prime of his career.

He had a good run with the Hawks, but the team needed to move in a new direction.

I like this pickup by the Hawks. Our backcourt has Teague, Williams, Harris, Jenkins, Morrow, Stevenson, so clearly someone is going to be moved.

[fatboy11]

Joe Johnson's BB IQ is kinda bad. He'll be good in BK because he won't have the ball. JJ was a large contributor to Josh Smith's jump shot attempts. So many times Joe would hold the ball, dribble into the paint , into a double team, and kick out to Josh with 3 seconds left on the clock. He was an enabler. I'm gonna miss him though.

Part of that is his teammates not being very good. Let's be honest here. The Hawks offense was bad, and it can't all be blamed on Joe Johnson. If you surround Joe Johnson with Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace and Dwight Howard, people aren't going to be saying he has a poor basketball IQ.

It's amazing that team was able to make the playoffs and actually advance at times. Horrible, horrible offensive make-up.

[fatboy11]

Some Hawk fans suck.

But hawkfan is awesome.

There are only "some" Hawks fans, right?

That said, Joe needed to go. His footspeed was gone, and more importantly his enthusiasm. He didn't care in the playoffs. He had one game where he scored 9 points against the beat up duo of Pierce and Allen. And he is supposed to be in the prime of his career.

He had a good run with the Hawks, but the team needed to move in a new direction.

I like this pickup by the Hawks. Our backcourt has Teague, Williams, Harris, Jenkins, Morrow, Stevenson, so clearly someone is going to be moved.

No disagreement that it was time to move on.

But that doesn't mean people need to make up things that weren't true. Making up things about Joe Johnson's ability.

[fatboy11]

Josh Smith was the best passer on the Hawks last year...