How many MVPs SHOULD Jordan have been awarded?

[Samurai Swoosh]

I know how many I think he SHOULD have. Do you think only being a 5x MVP is accurate?

[widowmaker]

none

[tpols]

Shaq was just as dominant in his prime and he had only 1 MVP. I feel like the award has changed since the 90s though. It used to be 'best player in the league' and now it's all about who is most valuable to their respective team.

[supermechasonic]

He should have gotten it in 1992-1993 for sure.

[widowmaker]

No, he really wasn't ...

Jordan was a better defender, and more dominant. More successful too from a team perspective.

At minimum he should have had 6, my count is he should have 8 or 9.

so a perimeter defender is more valuable than a rim defender?

[Christofire]

Shaq was just as dominant in his prime and he had only 1 MVP. I feel like the award has changed since the 90s though. It used to be 'best player in the league' and now it's all about who is most valuable to their respective team.

i actuallly prefer to criteria now....I think it's true to the meaning of most valuable player. If they want the award to just go to the best player then make the best player award. It's quite possible to better than someone but less valuable to your team because you may be surrounded by studs and the other guys surrounded by scrubs.


Jordan should now have had 6.

[tommy3]

He should have gotten 5 but he only got 5.

[Christofire]

In Jordan's case, yes. His team's were better defensively. And he was the team's best defender. He didn't have any weakness defensively. Shaq, you run the screen and roll and he's ****ed. Shaq wasn't even as good of an on ball defender as KG and Duncan.

You can tell the people who grew up strictly in the Shaq era when they say he was as dominant as Jordan.

This dude was 7'2 and can't even compete with Jordan's PPG numbers.

Not to mention, at the end of games, he's a liability.

Anyone who says Shaq > MJ, or was as dominant is flat out retarded.

Jordan had no weaknesses. There is never a point in the game where you can take him out of it. You can't keep the ball out of his hands, because he's a guard.

Shaq can't do it all like MJ could.

did jordan have any weaknesses?...man the jordan perversion never stops.

[widowmaker]

No, he really didn't. The basketball equivelent to the perfect storm. GOAT status. Why are you acting like you don't understand this general consensus?

A game for humanity's life is at stake.

You want Jordan on your team, or Shaq?

Please ...

based on this theory he should have never lost.

[Christofire]

No, he really didn't. The basketball equivelent to the perfect storm. GOAT status. Why are you acting like you don't understand this general consensus?

A game for humanity's life is at stake.

You want Jordan on your team, or Shaq?

Please ...

Shaq...more dominant, harder to effectively gameplan against....Jordan was beast but didnt start winning until his team was stacked. i have no memories of those laker teams being 'stacked" just shaq Kobe and some role players that nobody will bother remember and that were nobodies before and after LA...beside glen rice ofcourse and maybe one or 2 other players.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Depends on the criteria, but at least 6 imo. He won 7 Sporting News MVP's, which are voted on by the players and coaches, so that's probably more accurate than his 5 actual MVP's.

[whoartthou]

Shaq...more dominant, harder to effectively gameplan against....Jordan was beast but didnt start winning until his team was stacked. i have no memories of those laker teams being 'stacked" just shaq Kobe and some role players that nobody will bother remember and that were nobodies before and after LA...beside glen rice ofcourse and maybe one or 2 other players.

THis christ guy is a ****ing idiot


Shaq won NOTHING without stacked teams... and when he had stacked teams (orlando) he still won jack shit.

He need a top 10 player on his team to win ships... and don't act like the early laker squads were NOT stacked.

[widowmaker]

no weakness = no defeats.. before the 6 championships his weaknesses were exposed, after the 6 championships his weaknesses were exposed. he is the greatest but its funny how people speak of him like he was some kind of demigod

[whoartthou]

Wait the BULLS were stacked?



And the Lakers had essentially, akin to the current Heat ... 2 bonnafide top five players int he game on the same team?

Jordan was more dominant.

Shaq couldn't win until Kobe / Wade came along.

Both being basically the two best SG's of all-time behind Jordan.

And both players completely covered up for his inadaquacies. And were the closers for both teams.

Jordan started and finished games. THUS clearly more dominant.

Shaq had stacked teams in Orlando ... and then in LA, before Kobe turned into a full fledged superstar

Van Excel
Eddie Jones
Elden Campbell

ring a bell?

seriously, the amount of hate jordan gets from kobe stans is ridiculous.

Jordan is clearly > shaq

[whoartthou]

no weakness = no defeats.. before the 6 championships his weaknesses were exposed, after the 6 championships his weaknesses were exposed. he is the greatest but its funny how people speak of him like he was some kind of demigod

so what were his weaknesses before he won the chips?