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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekindled
    Roughly 1/3 of the possession Dwight turns it over, other roughly 1/3 he gets fouled and shoots roughly 50% from the line, other 1/3 he gets a shot off and shoots roughly 60%(being generous here) from the field.

    so calculation, thats 1/3*0+1/3*1+1/3*2*.6= roughly .74 pts per possession.

    the league average is .85 pts per possession with postups.


    just for some reference, the best players in post up points per possesions(with at least 80 attemps) are :
    Kobe and Durant tied first at 1.12 , melo .97, B.Lopez .96



    Yet dwight wants more postups

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    Dwight makes me miss the kwame brown era. Guy is atrocious turd in the post.

    dwight doesn't seem to understand the objective of the team is to maximize production of all players and to win. Not to showcase his sorry ass post moves.

    Orlando dwight is gone. All we got is fat elvis now.

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    Dwight is touching the ball just as much as he did on Orlando with more talent surrounding him, and his post ups are well below the league average in terms of efficiency. What more does this clown want. He is playing with a player who statistically is one of the best post up players in the entire league, Kobe Bryant, and demanding more shots and taking away Kobe's post up oppurtunities as well

    And Mamba shooting too much is the problem here?

    Dwight camping out and hogging the paint with his scrub level inefficiency is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longtime lurker
    Yes I quoted the where you said Dwight sucks and I asked you why wouldn't someone admit that Dwight is the problem and stop blaming the coach or Kobe. It wasn't necessarily directed at you more a general question of if Dwight is limited offensively then how is anyone else to blame?
    Because it's a team sport and what team mates do affect one another. How are you asking questions that are this stupid, and then acting so supremely confident about it?

    Dwight has problems, D'antoni has problems, Gasol has problems, Kobe has problems, the Lakers have problems.

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    Offensively what Howard is missing is fundamental offense to fall back on, and natural finesse around the basket. If this season is any indication of what Dwight will start to become a few years from now (at 30-31 years old), it's quite alarming IMO. This is a player who has regressed before, and back problems can be debilitating.

    So much of his game relies on athletic ability, not world-class moves and finishes. He's not the playmaking type and his dribbling is average at best. He has no reliable jump shot whatsoever, which is an overall weakness (not necessarily causing the Lakers to lose), and it's getting to the point where he might forget about improving that aspect of his game altogether. He took 120+ shots from 10 feet-and-out in 2011, which is good (bank shots and stuff), but that shrunk to about 20 shots last year. From that distance this season, Howard has shot horribly.

    He doesn't have the speed and normal explosiveness of that past few years, but, clearly his game is limited with or without it... I think even a casual fan could point out Howard is an All Star who has great strengths and great weaknesses.

    Regardless of his weaknesses, I've been pretty adamant in other threads that he needs more touches, more lobs, more cuts to basket using multiple screens, get him in transition, etc. It doesn't have to be pure post ups (like we saw so much from him in 2011). From a basketball standpoint, it's clear that's how the Lakers will be successful, just getting him integrated in general. Howard has had a few high scoring games (28+) and all in wins I think. Kobe, and D'Antoni alike, don't seem to have the patience for Howard's back-to-the-basket game though. To quote Andrew Bynum, "he's going to have to get accustomed to playing with Kobe and not touching the ball every single play". And that's the truth.

    If we're measuring a player by his greatest season, Howard was certainly best in 2011, amazing at times considering his defensive impact. In that year's MVP discussion (no competition at his position), but in the grand scheme his offense is nothing that will go down as legendary. As far as recent examples, I think Howard's offensive impact (not style) in 2011 is comparable to 25 year old Jermaine O'Neal (2004) and 26 year old Elton Brand (2006). All of them were at 27-30 Usage % , scored 20-25% of the teams total points @ 20-24 ppg, grabbed around 3 offensive rebounds per game, and played around the same minutes. In MVP voting, Howard was #2, O'Neal was #3, and Brand was #7. Howard scored most efficiently (easily the best dunker of the three) but his Assist-to-Turnover ratio and FT% were significantly worse.

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