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Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by kurple
and isnt close to the defender Ben was
Off course not. If people look beyond the highlight film Biyombo is above average at best and is horrible weak side defender. I don't know why the Cavs don't exploit this more often.
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NBA Legend
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by feyki
Ben Was close to Russell . Biyombo is close to Mutombo . Gap is huge .
Why do you say that? Aside from protecting the rim and going for rebounds they didn't really play alike, and Ben wasn't even as good at protecting the rim. Ben wasn't touching the ball in the post able to lead opposing centers and even the league (among centers) in assists, nor was he good for his 15+ppg by creating in the post, or running his own fast breaks off of defensive rebounds. Ben Wallace was like a Clifford Ray, not a Bill Russell.
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Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
This is more than likely a 2005 Jerome James-esque type situation.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
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Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Fluke.
Remember when Roy Hibbert looked good in that Miami ECF series? Yeah...
So, this fool will come back down to Earth.
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Qing James Fan
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by jlip
This is more than likely a 2005 Jerome James-esque type situation.
It would be funny if Biyombo gets paid and then shows up fat and out of shape next season.
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A humble prophet
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
You have to remember he went against a Miami frontline of midgets (Miami had no bigs), and a Cleveland frontline that is soft as shit for the most part.
Miami or Toronto with their primary bigs healthy would've both been legitimate threats to the Cavs, because they are so weak on the interior.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by Dresta
You have to remember he went against a Miami frontline of midgets (Miami had no bigs), and a Cleveland frontline that is soft as shit for the most part.
Miami or Toronto with their primary bigs healthy would've both been legitimate threats to the Cavs, because they are so weak on the interior.
TT is an elite rebounder, LeBron is a great rebounder for his position, and Kevin Love is a former rebounding champion
you are wrong about everything, seriously stop posting
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Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Yeah, he fluked into playing the same way he has all season.
He won't be Big Ben, but they have similar styles in bringing energy, rebounding, and shot blocking. It's important for Bismack not to think he's anything more than a player with a high motor and I think he understands that.
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Induuubitably
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
All I know is that im super effn' cheesed that we probably won't be able to resign him or even come close to it for that matter.
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Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by Done_And_Done
All I know is that im super effn' cheesed that we probably won't be able to resign him or even come close to it for that matter.
Won't be that upset, the Raptors still have Bebe they can develop and he's probably the most skilled center of the group of C's the team has.
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Local High School Star
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
I don't buy it as a "he's arrived" moment. Just a perfect storm for him.
He has a player option for next season that he will obviously decline. Perfect timing for him to ball out.
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Induuubitably
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
Won't be that upset, the Raptors still have Bebe they can develop and he's probably the most skilled center of the group of C's the team has.
I like Nog a whole lot. I see a ton of potential in the kid. Hope you're right Leggy...
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Free the banned users.
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
I think he's the real deal.
Not necessarily a Wallace level type, but he can be a force for years to come.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Biyombo fluke run or next Ben Wallace?
He has a motor, he plays with intensity, he's been physical against a team that isn't all that physical inside.
We all remember how Roy Hibbert used to destroy those Miami squads a few years ago and got paid max and turned into trash who wouldn't give you anything on the offensive end and who looked bored on D, it could be a similar situation.
Big Ben was a high IQ player and learned from one of the best minds in basketball in Larry Brown. He wasn't close to as good as he was on that Detroit squad in the mid-2000s.
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